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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: e2fsprogs</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Thu May 3 12:56:39 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 3 May 2012 12:50, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but I feel this is not needed for MGA2. In fact, systemd has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changed the shutdown behaviour. The good patch would be to make him sync
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the hwclock at shutdown, as we have no bugs because of this sysvinit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> behaviour.
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+</I>&gt;<i> There are real problems related to this as described upstream. Without a
+</I>&gt;<i> proper ntp implementation doing the time sync we have *no* idea that
+</I>&gt;<i> what we are doing is correct. If this is a dual boot system we could be
+</I>&gt;<i> clobbering the RTC without any knowledge that what we are doing is
+</I>&gt;<i> vaguely valid. So no, I will not entertain adding the sync hwclock stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> back. That is broken. What is also broken is that e2fsk uses the time as
+</I>&gt;<i> anything to complain about. None of the other fsck implementations do
+</I>&gt;<i> this AFAIK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I stand by my original assertion that the change is valid and should
+</I>&gt;<i> be included.
+</I>
+I stand to my position: it doesn't fix any issue on Mageia.
+You don't have any bug report to prove the contraty.
+You I doubt you can find one since we make the Drakx
+installer prevent fsck to use time or mount count to
+cause a fsck (at least on journalized systems) for years
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