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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: e2fsprogs</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Thu May 3 00:00:47 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 27/04/12 16:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 27/04/12 15:19 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 27 April 2012 15:23, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As per discussions earlier, can you please push e2fsprogs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Er there hasn't been much discussion!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It adds a default config to prevent fsck when system clock and hwclock
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> are out of sync.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What's more, from what I remember from reading the e2fsprogs many years ago,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that was added only for ubuntu installer where date setting was wrong,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resulting in a date differenence on booting the newly installed system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and thus forcing a fsck.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This doesn't affect us since our installer forbid fsck based on too big
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> elapsed time since last check.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What's more it cannot happen &quot;when system clock and hwclock
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are out of sync&quot; for the same reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As it doesn't fix any real bug, I suggests postponing this to mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it's does not directly related to a bug but it is in some way
+</I>&gt;<i> related to:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3817">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3817</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I mentioned in my original mail, as the hwclock is not clobbered on
+</I>&gt;<i> shutdown with whatever random value we have in the system clock, we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to be more tolerant of errors in time offsets.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the user runs ntpd and doesn't drift too much then the RTC will be
+</I>&gt;<i> sync'ed every 11 minutes by the kernel. If the drift is too high, or the
+</I>&gt;<i> user does not run ntpd, then there will be no system clock to hwclock
+</I>&gt;<i> sync as we simply don't have enough info to know we're correct.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This patch will avoid any fallout from this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think it's likely still important to have in mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some more info:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/4943">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/4943</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+
+Ping? Any revised opinions?
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
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