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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java</H1>
+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Fri Mar 30 11:14:03 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/30 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:40, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, if it's obsoleted by task-obsolete, task-obsolete will be
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Providing it's on the media (eg: in the DVD case)
+</I>
+Ok, thx for the explanation.
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+But thinking further task-obsolete will not be needed in this case:
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+People who install a new system can not install it because it is removed anyway.
+People who update will get an update of java-sun-plugin telling them
+about the removal of the package and the reason
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+Or do I misunderstand?
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+wobo
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