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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues</H1>
+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+ <I>Thu Mar 29 19:33:36 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 18:40, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> kdm requires some config files provided by kde4-config-file, that's mean
+</I>&gt;<i> either Default-kde4-config, vanilla-kde4-config or netbook-kde4-config.
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmq --requires kdm
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-runtime
+</I>&gt;<i> kde4-config-file[&gt;= 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmq --whatprovides kde4-config-file
+</I>&gt;<i> vanilla-kde4-config|Default-kde4-config|netbook-kde4-config
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, you can use vanilla-kde4-config instead of Default-kde4-config, and
+</I>&gt;<i> you will remove the requires on plasma-applet-icontasks and all its
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As previously said by John and Thierry, logs could help a lot to narrow
+</I>&gt;<i> an eventually wrong requires.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw, on a server, perhaps you could replace kdm by a lighter login manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>
+Thanks Luc. Installing vanilla-kde4-config allows kdebase4-workspace to be
+removed. So basically ark/konsole/kdm require libkdecore5, which requires
+kde4-config-file, and the packages that satisfy that dependency require a ton
+of stuff, especially Default-kde4-config, which requires a lot more than it
+did in Mageia 1. It shouldn't be terribly difficult to suss this out, just
+by testing uninstalling the KDE packages and then installing one of the config
+packages and seeing what it pulls in.
+
+If you still think you need anything from me, let me know, but I don't see that
+you will. Just a note to tv, I did the upgrade with the installer and not
+urpmi, so I don't have urpmi logs but I do have drakx logs.
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