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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 28 21:07:14 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi
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+Gnome 3.4 was released today :), and the Mageia 2 release candidate is
+meant to be on the 10th April. However I have a little request that I
+hope will be taken seriously. That is for the shut down button to show
+by default in Gnome 3.4 in Mageia 2.
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+As far as I know it isn't at the moment, I haven't tried Gnome Shell in
+Cauldron just yet, since when I tried to before with Alpha 1 and 2
+issues with XFdrake and trying to get my proprietary Nivida driver
+installed.
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+Anyway going back on topic I strongly believe that Mageia 2's Gnome
+Shell should be showing the shut down button by default, even though
+like Olav and I assume Bkor as well, I would like Mageia's Gnome to stay
+rather close to upstream by default at the moment.
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+However it won't be using the default theme by default, in fact it will
+be using a port of the KDE theme, and so I don't think having the shut
+down button by default will be a problem as such.
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+Quite a lot of people still want to shut down their computer instead of
+suspend or leaving it on most/all of the time, and I am one of them.
+There was also a 60+ year old at my LUG, that I went to for a first time
+last Saturday, who was using Fedora on a lap top, who wanted to use the
+shut down button. He told me how when he was new to Fedora it took him
+quite a long time to find out how to shut down.
+
+There was quite a lot of stuff before on the web about how it wasn't
+good to have to press tab for the shut down button to show in the menu.
+Personally I don't mind doing that as such, but I know that many other
+people will.
+
+Apparently Debian have the shut down button showing in Gnome Shell. Not
+sure about OpenSuse, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do as well. As
+for Fedora they stay very close to upstream with Gnome, so of course
+it's not there by default. Fedora is also aimed at in general slightly
+more technical users than what Ubuntu is aimed at for example or in my
+opinion anyway. As for Mageia we should have the distro aimed at
+everyone, from brand new users to Desktop Linux, to
+opensource/freesoftware experts, as a result the shut down button should
+indeed be showing by default in the menu.
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+Apparently the extensions need re creating for Gnome 3.4 or something,
+well ok, but well please let's have the shut down button showing in the
+menu by default in Mageia 2.
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+I can imagine a lot of new users being given Mageia on a Live CD to try
+out, and trying out the Gnome version, then coming back to the person
+saying something like, &quot;yeah Mageia Gnome was good, but I had
+absolutely no idea how to shut it down when I tried it&quot;. I also think
+it would be a bit bad to say to these users something like &quot;With the
+Gnome Shell interface in Mageia 2 the developers of it decided to remove
+the shut down button by default, so if you want to shut down you have to
+press tab, to get it to show&quot;.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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