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+   <H1>[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues</H1>
+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+    <I>Wed Mar 28 18:40:01 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I have a server VM that does not have KDE installed, but it has KDM, ark, and
+konsole installed.  IceWM is the default window manager.
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+I've tested upgrading it to Mageia 2, and all kinds of extra KDE stuff gets
+pulled in in the upgrade, including task-kde4-minimal, leaving a broken KDE as
+the default window manager.
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+I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+(plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+certainly seems wrong.  I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
+getting pulled in.  If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
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+Also, as I alluded to, KDE installed with task-kde4-minimal is a bit broken. 
+Some issues include no showdesktop widget being installed, and as soon as you
+log in, an error message:
+Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to
+connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus
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+Not sure if this is related, but when you don't have a sound device, Kmix in the
+system tray has a missing icon.
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+Finally, even on a workstation installation with full KDE, there is some error
+message that briefly displays at the top of the screen after you log in, but not
+long enough to read it.  It looks like something about power management.
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