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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option</H1>
+ <B>Jeff Robins</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bbugs%5D%20%5BBug%203466%5D%20Add%20radeon-firmware%20in%20the%20Isos%0A%20or%20add%20radeon.modeset%3D0%20option&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHC-z7LaHNDxBaGe1Jaz5xRqDKPun9_%2BSXOq2YjgALmLQGN8NA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option">jeffrobinssae at gmail.com
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+ <I>Fri Mar 16 23:13:55 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Priscus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3466">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3466</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- Comment #26 from Priscus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">wizzard at twa-corbies.net</A>&gt; 2012-03-16 21:19:18 CET ---
+</I>&gt;<i> (In reply to comment #23)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That is as intended: all radeon video cards need the firmware files for KMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just fyi. My 7 year old Radeon 9200 SE doesn't have any firmware available,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and worked fine without any, prior to Mageia 2. &#160;With Magiea 2, I have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set radeon.modeset=0 to avoid the thousands of lines of error messages.
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably because KMS was not yet the default for the Radeon 9200?
+</I>&gt;<i> Needing the firmware is a rather recent development.
+</I>&gt;<i> The R9200 firmware is the usual all-in-one radeon-firmware package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The beta2 still needs radeon.modeset=0 at first boot. I know it is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> errata, but non-technical users will not look at it, and they're the one to
+</I>&gt;<i> need it most.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would probably be better to configure it by default. This would give
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone a working system at first boot (and typing the line is a bother when
+</I>&gt;<i> you do not use qwerty: you get the a.m to guess on azerty, for example).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be possible to automagically remove the line from the bootloader with
+</I>&gt;<i> a post-install script in radeon-firmware, with bonus points for leaving it in
+</I>&gt;<i> failsafe mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even without this last luxury, I think it is much better to give users a
+</I>&gt;<i> working setup by default. The current version will give bad reviews from blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> with more reach than technical know-how (I'll not give names, but I'm thinking
+</I>&gt;<i> of some) and tonnes of questions/complaints in the forums, with users unable to
+</I>&gt;<i> understand they all have the same damn problem (happened for Mageia 1).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia and the community would be better off without the noise and botheration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards, and thank you for all your work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+I can't recommend Mageia to friends when there is a high probability
+that there system will be unusable on first boot. On two of my three
+systems I couldn't even a command-line because the video for that was
+corrupted as well.
+
+--Jeff
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