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I think during the +</I>>><i> mga3 timeframe I'll try and look at the git infrastructure with a view +</I>>><i> to moving the various soft/ stuff over to git. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The things is, some translators are used to svn, so switching to git +</I>><i> may not be easy for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For dev, it can helps things, keeping unfinished stuff into branches +</I>><i> rather than in patch files that can got lost/forgoten +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Packages I won't even begin to think about (it's too much of a pain) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On contrary, I think this one would be easier since mgarepo is +</I>><i> supposed to hide svn though some packagers know they can +</I>><i> use svn directly. +</I> +Yeah this is true. I guess that needs to be addressed properly. I wasn't +involved with our transiflex roll out (nor do I know much about i18n +generally. I should really learn some day. + +>><i> but it would be good to have more official and better exposed git +</I>>><i> repositories +</I>><i> +</I>><i> other advantages are : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - less used space on the server (disk usage exploded on the +</I>><i> server when switching from CVS to SVN) ; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - also quite a lot less files on the server too (so less jobs for +</I>><i> saving & fscking) since cvs used on file per checked file whereas +</I>><i> svn (as configured in mdv) is using one file per transaction in +</I>><i> big directories +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - full history is backuped locally at relatively little space cost +</I>><i> (providing git gc is run regularly at least when using git-svn) +</I>><i> for quite a lot project, disk usage is actually smaller than svn +</I>><i> that keep a copy of everything in .svn, thus doubling disk usage +</I>><i> whereas git compressed history can be smaller (not for the full +</I>><i> drakx history for the last 11+years though :-) ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - quite a lot operations are faster (even if SVN was already an +</I>><i> improvement over SVN regarding this) due to local requesting +</I>><i> instead of network requests (eg: log, blame, ...) +</I> +Sold! (but then I was already sold anyway :)) + +>><i> where appropriate, automatic patch generation for some +</I>>><i> packages (for example I use one for the initscripts package and I need +</I>>><i> to be careful to add in patches from others to the "official" git +</I>>><i> repository for it). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At least this one should eventually die, shouldn't it :-) ? +</I> +For various values of "eventually" :p + +This is a valid point in the case of initscripts but several scripts +will likely live on for a while - tho' maybe they'll be migrated to +other, more specific-to-use-case packages (e.g. the networking scripts +and the storage related scripts might eventually be split up... maybe +not much need for that tho' - who knows). Certainly I would see our +variations from the upstream fedora versions reducing over time. A lot +of our changes seem to be quite pointless already - i.e. no real gain +from any practical perspective. I guess this variation will reduce as +time goes by) + +But yeah, even if this one dies, it would be good to allow mgarepo to +automatically checkout/clone the source along with the pagkage for easy +development and patch regeneration etc. One day it might be super easy, +but no real rush I guess. + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="013087.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="013088.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#13102">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#13102">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#13102">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#13102">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |