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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2</H1>
+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C20120312174052.GB10572%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+ <I>Mon Mar 12 18:40:52 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 18:06, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:3.3.2-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 223037
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) This is not what you've done.
+</I>&gt;<i> What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
+</I>&gt;<i> from gnome-utils
+</I>&gt;<i> but come from their own SRPMS.
+</I>
+gnome-utils was split up into various tarballs:
+<A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils">http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils</A>
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+task-gnome contained only a &quot;Obsoletes: gnome-utils&quot;. I replaced it with
+suggests for the splitted packages to ensure that gnome-screenshot (the
+bug) as well as the other replacements would be installed.
+
+Or do you mean that above webpage is wrong? Could be, didn't really
+check that thoroughly what packages replaced gnome-utils.
+
+&gt;<i> 2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
+</I>&gt;<i> thus defeating
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot; ensure gnome-utils is installed&quot;
+</I>
+I have asked many times about task-gnome and task-gnome-minimal and
+everyone has their own definition. I've asked various times if the
+&quot;GNOME&quot; option in the installer could please reflect &quot;GNOME&quot;, and not
+some weird cut-down version of it called &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot;, but
+haven't gotten very far with that.
+
+I don't want to step on toes and just ignore the &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot; vs
+&quot;task-gnome&quot;, etc (I still don't get why we have -minimal; I also don't
+see why we have task-gnome though.. seems that not even Nautilus would
+be installed), so I added Suggests instead.
+
+I don't really see any difference between either having the
+gnome-screenshot as a Suggests in task-gnome (which the installer
+doesn't install, it looks at task-gnome-minimal) or as Suggests in
+task-gnome-minimal (which won't end up on the DVD apparently).
+If task-gnome-minimal is &quot;not to be touched&quot; and task-gnome is not
+installed by the installer.. what am I to do to fix bugs? Suggests seems
+like the only option. Furthermore, I've also added a gnome-screenshot
+Suggests to gnome-shell.
+
+IMO mga#4903 was an avoidable bug. As bugs are discovered on resulting
+dependency problems, I want to fix every case. To me it seems the wrong
+way to deal with this, but I rather raise &quot;-minimal&quot; strangeness after
+Mageia 2 release so I can point at the resulting bugs.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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