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+ <B>Sander Lepik</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 8 15:18:07 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>08.03.2012 16:00, Kamil Rytarowski kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> On 08.03.2012 13:20, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too, you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think the policy is the one that must be changed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you want to merge 32-bit and 64-bit software for nonfree and tainted?
+</I>No, i don't.
+&gt;&gt;<i> For exeptions like Skype.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>Because this can't be done any other way.
+&gt;&gt;<i> Or we need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> less sense to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> If we add core 32-bit, then why not nonfree 32-bit? Why to bloat our
+</I>&gt;<i> servers with pseudo 64-bit packages?
+</I>Bloat? Noarch packages should be hardlinked AFAIK.
+&gt;&gt;<i> Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have Skype
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in our distro :(
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Skype isn't in our distro, just a dummy package.
+</I>User has no idea what it is, (s)he either can find it in rpmdrake or not.
+&gt;<i> 2. Moving into the right place = not shipping at all?
+</I>For 64-bit users it is not shipping at all.
+&gt;<i> 3. Tagging Skype as noarch is a falsehood. What about the coming ARM?
+</I>&gt;<i> What about other 32-bit only software?
+</I>Lets deal with ARM problems when ARM is supported. For that time we
+might have 64-bit Skype.
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It worked w/o any problems on 64-bit systems. Now we are back in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> square one.
+</I>&gt;<i> Every 32-bit software should work without any problems with 64-bit
+</I>&gt;<i> systems.. this is not a real argument.
+</I>Yes, but 32-bit nonfree packages are not available to 64-bit users.
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+I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva
+had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for
+non-developer/sysadmin user.
+
+--
+Sander
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