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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 21:32, Johnny A. Solbu skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 07 March 2012 17:16, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What should we use instead?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In other words, we should no longer use runlevel 3 as default?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are multiuser systems where running a graphical login agent is undesireable, for whatever reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No. we need runlevel 3 to work too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's insane to expect to have to run any graphical stuff on servers /
+</I>&gt;<i> routers / ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But for most desktop users graphical login is wanted...
+</I>
+Exactly.
+
+multi-user.target (aka runlevel 3) is still needed for servers. There is
+no problem in using this mode.
+
+graphical.target (aka runlevel 5) is for users who want a graphical
+system, again there is no problem with this mode and it is meant to run
+a graphical login agent.
+
+The actual use case of using a text login and then starting X is quite
+small. Of course some people (like Wobo) do use this but it's definitely
+the exception rather than the rule.
+
+That's why it's not too much of a problem overall IMO. And like I say,
+this is something other distros have already done (OpenSUSE, Fedora).
+
+Col
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