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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Z&#233;zinho at 07/03/12 15:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Em 07-03-2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I know where the same problem with autologin comes from ;-)
+</I>
+Kinda, but really the autologin package should do the whole pam
+conversation stuff itself, so it *should* be possible to make that work.
+
+&gt;<i> I suppose using sysvinit allows to still use startx and autologin, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> will work at least without systemd.
+</I>
+For the time being, we will still support sysvinit and console-kit.
+Using console-kit will still work (although various caveats are still
+present in the way that console-kit &quot;tracks&quot; sessions (clue: It really
+doesn't do any tracking at all!).
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe we could only add this information to the Errata, along with an
+</I>&gt;<i> howto use sysvinit?
+</I>
+I'd rather not. We want people to use systemd by default and while
+sysvinit will still limp on in mga2 it's definitely going to be a second
+class citizen.
+
+&gt;<i> If I followed things well, upgrades from MGA1 will continue using
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit, so people won't get this regression on upgrades?
+</I>
+No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+similar).
+
+Col
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