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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Tue Mar 6 18:51:57 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script. The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+</I>&gt;<i> management.
+</I>
+Well, that's my whole point!!!
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+&gt;<i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+</I>
+So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+different solution?
+
+I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
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+As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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