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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 06/03/12 13:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They why are you booting to a graphical target?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>From what I read, because that's what was done during installation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> prefdm shouldn't be there on installs without X
+</I>
+Well both the service (part of systemd-units) and the script (part of
+initscripts) will certainly exist.
+
+And prefdm.service is a hard requirement of graphical.target (due to
+/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target.wants/display-manager.service
+symlink) [display-manager.service is in turn a symlink to prefdm.service
+- longer term it'll probably become the official name instead of prefdm]
+
+
+The thing is that the default.target symlink should change between
+multi-user.target and graphical.target (or runlevel3.target and
+runlevel5.target which are compatibility symlinks for the newer, more
+descriptive names).
+
+This symlink structure is equiv to the line in inittab:
+id:5:initdefault:
+where 5 or 3 are the typical values.
+
+&gt;<i> When you install a new machine (without X) and boot it, you expect to
+</I>&gt;<i> be given a login prompt
+</I>
+I would agree. In that case the code should ensure that
+multi-user.target or runlevel3.target is used.
+
+We need to check what the inittab file says too. The drakx code that
+deals with runlevels should keep the default.target symlink and inittab
+file in sync. If a fresh install like this includes an initab with 5,
+then that's a problem.
+
+Or perhaps we just need to create a default.target in the %post of
+systemd-units if it doesn't exist and default it to whatever inittab
+says? I'm pretty sure the installer code should take care of creating
+this symlink tho'.... will try and double check with a clean install in
+a VM.
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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