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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 22 12:20:41 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 22.06.2012 00:01, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>[...]
+&gt;&gt;<i> however, as long as backports is installed, it could still be that due
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update a new dependency from release is pulled, which could conflict (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work correctly) with some of the installed backports.
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+&gt;<i> Like has been said for many times now, you should not backport such
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
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+but that's my point, you can't guarantee it, because it's a new dependency
+from an update. _any_ package can be the new dependency. even one that was
+backported before.
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+&gt;<i> And about the conflicting part - well, at that point you are already on
+</I>&gt;<i> your own, at least
+</I>&gt;<i> as i see it. Backports can break updating/upgrading, we can't avoid that
+</I>&gt;<i> (and for the same
+</I>&gt;<i> reason backports should be cherry-picked, so you get as little trouble as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible). The
+</I>&gt;<i> best you can do at that point is to submit a bug about broken update and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe (just maybe)
+</I>&gt;<i> we can submit the updated package that needs those new deps into backports
+</I>&gt;<i> too - so you can
+</I>&gt;<i> pull it from there and get over the update problem. But this should be a
+</I>&gt;<i> rare case anyway.
+</I>
+Breaking updates because we try to support backports is not something that
+i wish to have, no matter how rare the case.
+
+And your solution wouldn't work, except for backporting the update and
+having the user manually try to use the backported version for that too...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> D. not supporting backports
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for update validation of package X (let's call it update A2):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. testing combination: A,C,E for arch i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. testing combination: A,C,E for arch x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for backport validation of package X (let's call it backport B2):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Validations required: 2 for each update
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> =&gt; this is how it is now
+</I>&gt;<i> And for updates it should stay like that.
+</I>
+both B2, C and D have the same amount of tests for updates.
+
+i thought i had made this clear, but it seems i failed in this.
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