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Additionally this will work for all packages built on the +system (not only the official packages, but also site-specific +packages) and will work with or without ABRT (some sites may not want +to send bug reports to ABRT but collect them locally). + +It will also make it easier to do things like system wide profiling, +userspace dynamic probes and causual debugging. +(...) +Fedora 18 ships with a small subset of debug information by default. +Full debug information is still available in the debuginfo packages. " + +><i> - Can we spare this space on the DVDs? My guess is no but I don't build +</I>><i> (nor use) them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For cauldron we can expect people to install debug packages when necessary. +</I> +Well, see above, in years I've see strange "quantic" bugs that +happened to quite some +people but nearly noone could reproduce which took years to kill bits +by bits in eg: perl. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017755.html">[Mageia-dev] %_libexecdir - Re: [5228] revert some duplicated manbo stuff (all identical to default but +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017828.html">[Mageia-dev] %_libexecdir - Re: [5228] revert some duplicated manbo stuff (all identical to default but +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |