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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GNOME 3.4 will rely on hostnamed, localed, timedated D-Bus API</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jan 27 22:25:13 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 &#224; 16:14 +0000, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 27/01/12 15:52 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 &#224; 10:07 +0000, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 00:00 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Daemons will work under sysvinit. Just need to be installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Cool, I'll keep it in mind. They shouldn't need anything special to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; honest and I think systemd is required by basesystem anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I fear some people may not like this, can we avoid adding a hard
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; requires, and in this case, split the package ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( or at least, if we cannot do otherwise, we need to document it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how to disable systemd in the release notes, with clear instruction.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; People will complain, but we will answer &quot;this is documented&quot; ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Systemd is just installed, it doesn't mean it's used. You need to
+</I>&gt;<i> install systemd-sysvinit for it to replace sysvinit.
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+Yes, I know this is just installed and not used, but I am pretty sure
+that some people will complain.
+
+&gt;<i> While I'm sure we could split the package up, I'm not really sure how
+</I>&gt;<i> much it gains in practice other than a few kb of disk space.
+</I>
+Disk space is not the concern. Making sure I do not start to kill people
+who complain &quot;systemd cannot be removed, this is an outrage !!&quot; is the
+concern :)
+
+But if this cannot be done or too hard, no problem.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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