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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jan 27 16:21:04 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 27/01/12 15:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 01/27/2012 09:45 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well it's complicated. The different DE's do things differently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK, GNOME has used udev for a long time, and I had it in my head
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that KDE did also, but they are totally separate implementations. But
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I do see here, that my USB stick is not showing up in GNOME now. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> try later in KDE and try and pinpoint where the weak link is. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi stuff does still use HAL and should really be ported as HAL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shouldn't be used now (I've got it disabled on all my mga1 machines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anyway as I don't use urpmi+CD/DVD media). Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just for the record, this doesn't involve urpmi. This is just things
+</I>&gt;<i> like brasero and wine apps not being able to &quot;see&quot; loaded media that
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't mounted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE detects that it's there, and reads the volume label to display in
+</I>&gt;<i> the Devices popup, but doesn't mount it, probably because k3b doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> use mounted media anyway (the first thing it does is umount the disk).
+</I>&gt;<i> Things like VLC, &quot;Play disk&quot; which take the /dev/srX device address work
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds like several things are still relying on what hal does. Is there
+</I>&gt;<i> some intentional reason why volumes are no longer automounted ?
+</I>
+I really don't think it's anything to do with HAL here. As I said, it's
+only urpmi stuff that uses HAL and I'm pretty certain the DE's long ago
+stopped doing that.
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+I'll just be some regular bug.
+
+The info comes up in udev when querying /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 for
+example, but I'm not 100% sure all the UDISKS_* variables are totally
+correct. The metadata doesn't seem to suggest it is a removable device
+and hence it might not show up properly. I suspect this is the cause of
+that particular problem, but like I say I (or someone) will have to look
+into it a in a bit more detail.
+
+I wouldn't go down the HAL route tho'. I've never had it enabled on my
+machine for &gt;1 year and automounting has worked fine.
+
+Col
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