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But judging from this discussion +people did not know what really is correct. The arguing is not about +the wiki-page, but about the policy that is reflected by that wiki +page. + +You did now clarify the policy as it should be, and that is fine. But +please understand that the written policy did reflect a completely +different picture. + +>><i> Yes, but this then changes the policy drastically (for the better, so +</I>>><i> please change it) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is not that drastic a change.  The effect is essentially the same, +</I> +No, It is a drastic change from what is written. It probably is no big +difference compared to what people actually do today, but the policy +is changed drastically by this change. + +><i> although it is of course much easier -- and generally safer -- to apply a +</I>><i> (verified) bug fix only release from upstream. +</I>><i> As stated above, and mentioned by others posting to this thread, the wiki +</I>><i> page does not accurately affect the policy. +</I> +Well, you might have a different interpretation of this thread, but I +see people strongly supporting the policy as is written on the wiki, +so it is far from clear. + +>><i> And when I write "whatever is against the policy" - I'm referring to +</I>>><i> what is written in the wiki, not what people actually do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Policy is what was agreed on, and not any errors that may exist in what is +</I>><i> written in the wiki.  We have corrected many similar errors in the wiki. +</I> +If things were so clear, than people could have written exactly what +you did and not continue with this discussion for so long. + +><i> Calling your understanding of the policy "stupid" is not necessarily the +</I>><i> most diplomatic approach. +</I> +Again: I did judge what is written in the wiki. When policies are +published, I have no other choice than to assume that what is written +reflects the policy that was discussed and decided upon. +And while it might not be diplomatic, I for sure prefer people +actually writing what they mean. I of course fully agree that just +writing "foo sucks" without stating how foo could suck less is +inappropriate/waste of time. + +But well - thanks for making a concrete statement of what the policy +/actually/ is. + +ciao +Christian +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011323.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011300.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |