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The policy is stating the exact opposite. And +</I>>>><i> also Michael seems to defend the policy as it is written, and not your +</I>>>><i> interpretation here. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> No, I'm doing exactly as the policy says, patch current stable +</I>>><i> version. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> But then you're *not* doing as the policy says, as policy says: +</I>><i> "same version of the package *released with the distribution*" +</I>><i> So whatever version that ended up in the initial release of the +</I>><i> distro. Not what is available upstream. +</I>><i> +</I> +To make things entirely clear, the agreed base policy (in various +meetings) was that updates should contain no new features. Thus in +general, a (verified) bug fix only release from upstream would qualify +as an update. +This being subject to exceptions, which were later agreed on after much +discussion. + +Of course, to conform with our base policy of no new features in +updates, if an upstream release contains any new features (and doesn't +qualify for the exceptions), then bug fixes obviously have to be applied +in patches. (Which is probably why the editor of the wiki page erred.) +(Other factors, such as version number dependancies, would have to be +considered as well.) +In other respects, this page accords with agreed policy. + +I don't really see the point of doing all this arguing about a wiki page +that doesn't completely accord with update policy. We just have to fix +the wiki page. + +>><i> The thing about bugfix only releases is something that it +</I>>><i> seems packagers have been doing implicitly as pterjan said before, and +</I>>><i> needs to be added to the policy. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, but this then changes the policy drastically (for the better, so +</I>><i> please change it) +</I>><i> +</I> +It is not that drastic a change. The effect is essentially the same, +although it is of course much easier -- and generally safer -- to apply +a (verified) bug fix only release from upstream. +As stated above, and mentioned by others posting to this thread, the +wiki page does not accurately affect the policy. (It is focusing on a +means of complying with the policy, rather than the policy itself.) + +><i> And when I write "whatever is against the policy" - I'm referring to +</I>><i> what is written in the wiki, not what people actually do. +</I>><i> +</I> +Policy is what was agreed on, and not any errors that may exist in what +is written in the wiki. We have corrected many similar errors in the wiki. + +Calling your understanding of the policy "stupid" is not necessarily the +most diplomatic approach. + +><i> ciao +</I>><i> Christian +</I>><i> +</I> +Regards + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011305.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011336.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |