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Solbu wrote: +><i> On Thursday 12 January 2012 10:05, Buchan Milne wrote: +</I>><i> > many users don't report upstream +</I>><i> > bugs to the distro's tracker.” +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Why not? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why should they? As far as the average Joe is concerned they should only +</I>><i> have to file a bug one place. This is how many of them think. And I agree +</I>><i> with them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 1)File a bug with the distribution, and have the distribution worry about +</I>><i> > reporting or fixing the bug and providing an update +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 2)File a bug upstream, when the bug is fixed uptream, file a bug with the +</I>><i> > distributor, referencing the upstream bug +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My experience is that if they file a bug report in the first place, they +</I>><i> Either contact the upstream developer or the distribution's bugzilla team. +</I> +I covered this in (1). + +><i> They never do both, as they believe that doing both is a waste of time, +</I>><i> since the fixed version eventually find it's way to the distribution +</I>><i> anyway. +</I> +Sure, it will, on the next release of the distribution, assuming the new +upstream release was before version freeze. + +><i> > An approach that doens't include a bug filed with the distribution means +</I>><i> > the user doesn't really seem interested in receiving an update from the +</I>><i> > distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Incorrect assumption. +</I>><i> As someone who is the support service for some users I have some experience +</I>><i> with this. They assume that any serious bug will be fixed in one of the +</I>><i> next releaces, +</I> +But this *is* the case. What we are talking about *here*, is that the bugfix +update be shipped to old releases. + +><i> because that's how it works with Microsoft. +</I> +Yes, non-critical release will be shipped in next SP, a year or so later. + +><i> And they +</I>><i> haven't heard of anyone filing any bug at Microsoft. +</I> +Just because they haven't, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. + +><i> The bugs just get +</I>><i> fixed without them ever repporting anything, and they assume that this is +</I>><i> how things are supposed to work. Sometimes they even think that what we +</I>><i> consider as bugs, they believe it is how things are supposed to work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If they're not happy with how the system works, they often conclude that +</I>><i> Linux Sucks Ass, and move back to Windows or OS X. +</I> +But, your comparison is invalid. Users must pay for the privilege of upgrading +to get non-critical bugfixes the latter, and wait quite some time for the +former. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011288.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011247.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11290">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11290">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11290">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11290">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |