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Regularly Mageia suggests me updates that I +have not asked for since I have not filed a bug for them (and may not +even be affected). + +Besides, your example is silly: I don't know of a software project that +makes new releases only to fix typos in man pages. Bugfix releases *do* +contain worthwhile fixes. + +><i> 2)How you will identify all upstreams which have a good history of bugfix-only +</I>><i> releases, and how you will automate the selection of these packages to go to +</I>><i> updates, and how you will streamline this process through QA. +</I> +Each packager can decide if their upstream package is well-behaved or +not. Of course, better be conservative and not package bugfix releases +if you aren't totally confident. Still, some upstream teams *are* +well-behaved. + +><i> Anyway, you seem to be of the assumption that all the contributors to the +</I>><i> distribution you are using have so much more time on their hands than you do, +</I>><i> while in actual fact I believe almost all contributors are *very* contstrained +</I>><i> on time. +</I> +Relying on upstream for bug fixes may actually free some of the time +spent doing custom patching and testing. But I agree volunteer time is a +big blocker in most open source projects. + +><i> If you don't think it is worth your time to help out, why should we +</I>><i> waste time (which could be used to ensure the next release has all bugfixes) +</I>><i> on new bugfix releases we don't need? +</I> +Usually bugs are fixed for a reason (i.e. they affect someone +somewhere). Why you think people don't need bug fixes is beyond me: +Mageia users aren't, presumably, more stupid / more careless than users +of other distributions. + +Regards + +Antoine. + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011273.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011277.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11275">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11275">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11275">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11275">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |