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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] please stop doing &quot;bugs&quot; for updating magia 1</H1>
+ <B>Christian Lohmaier</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 11 21:53:48 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Christian Lohmaier
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lohmaier+mageia at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't do packaging, right ?
+</I>
+Wrong. I do packaging, although not for any distro.
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+&gt;<i> it isn't that hard and is how all distro's do it. Look at Fedora or
+</I>&gt;<i> SuSE's packages and you will see a lot of patch files fixing single
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs.
+</I>
+adding patches to the packages and releasing them instead of waiting
+for a new upstream release is different from having the policy to
+stick with whatever release was used when releasing the distro and
+then only apply fixes via patches.
+
+I'm not saying that you must not use patches to fix bugs. There are
+cases where a bug is homegrown/specific to the distro and thus not
+suitable for fixing upstream, there are cases where development cylce
+is too slow/it is not sensible to wait for upstream.
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+&gt;<i> It's a matter of following upstream bugzilla reports and see
+</I>&gt;<i> which commit fixes the issue in question, create a patch from it and
+</I>&gt;<i> apply it to the package. Most of the time you can get the patches to
+</I>&gt;<i> fix single bugs from other distros packages.
+</I>
+It is not a question whether it is possible. It is a question whether
+it makes sense in the first place.
+And no doubt it creates a lot more work for package maintainers.
+Both for initially hunting for the commit that fixes the bug, and
+later when patches conflict, and later when a package is updated to a
+new release.
+
+&gt;<i> Because as I said earlier, we backport the &quot;commit&quot; that fixes that
+</I>&gt;<i> single issue,
+</I>
+Every change, also those that introduce a regression is a &quot;commit&quot;.
+So implicitly you're saying that you will only fix the &quot;easy&quot; bugs,
+but anything that involves more than touching 10lines of code will not
+be chosen, since it might introduce regressions.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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