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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] please stop doing &quot;bugs&quot; for updating magia 1</H1>
+ <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] please stop doing &quot;bugs&quot; for updating magia 1">juancho at mageia.org
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+ <I>Wed Jan 11 18:43:35 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Christian Lohmaier
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lohmaier+mageia at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Welcome to distro-isolation, putting burden on maintainers, giving
+</I>&gt;<i> them all the reason to deny a reasonable request for a bugfix release
+</I>&gt;<i> because it just is too much work to hunt for a specific commit that
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed bug x.
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+You don't do packaging, right ?
+
+it isn't that hard and is how all distro's do it. Look at Fedora or
+SuSE's packages and you will see a lot of patch files fixing single
+bugs. It's a matter of following upstream bugzilla reports and see
+which commit fixes the issue in question, create a patch from it and
+apply it to the package. Most of the time you can get the patches to
+fix single bugs from other distros packages.
+
+If there's a bugfix-only release it's better as it will be easier to
+update, but many times they aren't and include new features which
+could introduce regressions so we have to cherry pick those fixes.
+Also many times there isn't a new release from upstream so the only
+option we have is to backport a single fix.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> A bug may vary from a typo in a man page to a critical security update,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And a typo-fix is not worthwhile to have?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think that what was meant here is that there are priorities for QA,
+where a security update is much more important and deserves more
+attention than a typo-fix. Of course, you are welcome to join the QA
+team to help them test those not so critical fixes if you really care
+that much about them.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, you cannot be save of regressions, but what makes you think you
+</I>&gt;<i> are smarter than upstream? What makes you so sure that not the one
+</I>&gt;<i> commit you add as a patch to your package is the one that causes the
+</I>&gt;<i> regressions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Because as I said earlier, we backport the &quot;commit&quot; that fixes that
+single issue, based on the info found on the bugzilla report of the
+upstream project. Also as you say most of the times upstream is not a
+bunch of clueless idiots so they will document very well each commit,
+making it easier for us to find those fixes.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Juancho
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