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But I've been running a phpBB +</I>>>>>>>><i> forum for a couple of years and successfully implemented some MODs in +</I>>>>>>>><i> phpBB2 and phpBB3. With no help (except the phpBB-forum in case of +</I>>>>>>>><i> problems). +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> In practice you have a detailed installation README for each MOD. Like +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> - open file /foo/bar/doo.php +</I>>>>>>>><i> - Find the line which starts with '......' +</I>>>>>>>><i> - After that add +</I>>>>>>>><i> - "........." +</I>>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>>><i> And more such step-by-step guidance +</I>>>>>>><i> My eyes start to bleed dues to such "guidances". +</I>>>>>><i> i'm sure misc means to say that we should have all our changes in +</I>>>>>><i> packages/puppet config so that we can update without issues. and with +</I>>>>>><i> file +</I>>>>>><i> edits, that's a whole different thing. +</I>>>>><i> I was more thinking of proper patchs or better, proper modules, with +</I>>>>><i> files to deploy in a well know directory . +</I>>>><i> I only gave a part of an example. MODs are made as enhancement to the +</I>>>><i> standard software. The easiest MOD is like Michael wrote: "a module +</I>>>><i> with files to deploy in a well known directory". But in most cases +</I>>>><i> they consist of files to copy into various directories of the program +</I>>>><i> tree and changes to existing files of the software. There are other +</I>>>><i> MODs which can be implemented automatically - which is far worse IMHO. +</I>>>><i> This is where a modded phpBB3 could turn into a nightmare to maintain +</I>>>><i> - believe me, I've been there :( +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Of course no developper of a MOD could know what somebody has already +</I>>>><i> done to the standard files, so it's not possible do use only patches. +</I>>>><i> And it could be (and that happens quite often) that a MOD is not +</I>>>><i> compatible to your already "modificated" forum software (destroys +</I>>>><i> other modifications or whatever). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> IMHO the best way in this case here would be a mod written for our +</I>>>><i> setup, all changes well defined to make it maintainable in a proper +</I>>>><i> way. Saying this I beg to think again whether the issue justifies all +</I>>>><i> the time and work. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> It would make me very, very happy, does that count a little? If I were sure +</I>>><i> that I'd be able to learn how to do it, I would now consider to halve the +</I>>><i> time I use for the Bug Squad and Doc Team and start learning. +</I>><i> Why? IMHO this complete issue is going out of proportions. Let's +</I>><i> remember why we *seem to need* this MOD in the first place. And what +</I>><i> will we find? The time-to-edit discussion, again. In the council +</I>><i> meeting where it was decided to have this mod It looked as the best +</I>><i> way to please a disturbing minority request, the more as that same +</I>><i> minority gave the impression that such a MOD could be implemented +</I>><i> within a reasonable time span. As we see now after 8 months, this was +</I>><i> never the case. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Adding the fact that a test period of several months with a much +</I>><i> looser time-to-edit setting in the German Mageia forum showed not one +</I>><i> single case of misuse brings me to the conviction that we should +</I>><i> rather rethink the time-to-edit limitation itself than to waste +</I>><i> manpower on this issue. Manpower which is needed at more important +</I>><i> tasks, if I may say. +</I>><i> +</I>In general i don't like those +1 posts, but this ^^ one hits the nail on the head. ++1 +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011227.html">[Mageia-dev] PHP + phpBB mod capabilities needed to fix bug 1956 - please help +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011237.html">[Mageia-dev] PHP + phpBB mod capabilities needed to fix bug 1956 - please help +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11232">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11232">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11232">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11232">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |