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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>On 08.01.2012 16:19, Luc Menut wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> first, sorry to reply so late, and when you have started to update
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell dictionaries packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 21/12/2011 08:15, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There was a discuss on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) preparing policies on hunspell-dictionaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) deprecate and kill myspell in Mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) changing the default path of dictionaries, from /usr/share/myspell to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/hunspell (and to keep backward compatibility links in myspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> directory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4) to provide &quot;enchant-dictionary&quot; and &quot;hunspell-dictionary&quot; by every
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-dictionary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So finally, I've prepared a first version of the policy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you like, please tell me your comments of it. Is it right? (Also: is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the .spec correct?) When everything will be accepted then every
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-dictionary will be updated according to the policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some comments about the policy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Version: 1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> Release: %mkrel %{upstream_release}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it will be possible to use Version 1.0 and upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> version only in the release; most hunspell dictionaries already use
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream version as version and have a version &gt; 1.0.
+</I>
+Strong +1 from me for not using hardcoded Version 1.0, please instead
+use the %upstream_release in Version.
+
+I don't see any reason to break the versioning policy here.
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> #Mageia values: 1 - aspell, 2 - hunspell, 3 - language specific
+</I>&gt;<i> Provides: enchant-dictionary = 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Provides: hunspell-dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> Provides: dictionary-%{languagecode}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> about the version value of the provides: is the meaning (1 - aspell, 2 -
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell, 3 - language specific) really needed? is it currently used?
+</I>
+The intention was that when a package depended on enchant-dictionary,
+urpmi would prefer language specific enchant dictionaries over hunspell
+dictionaries over aspell dictionaries when presenting a list for the user.
+
+&gt;<i> Because I think that it could be usefull that the versionned provides
+</I>&gt;<i> indicates the location of the dictionary:
+</I>&gt;<i> - current enchant-dictionary = 2 -&gt;&gt; /usr/share/dict/mozilla
+</I>&gt;<i> - enchant-dictionary from hunspell -&gt;&gt; enchant-dictionary = 4 -&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/hunspell and /usr/share/myspell,
+</I>&gt;<i> - enchant-dictionary from future hunspell without compatibility link in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/myspell -&gt;&gt; enchant-dictionary = 5 -&gt;&gt; /usr/share/hunspell only,
+</I>&gt;<i> - ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (it seems weird for me to use the same &quot;enchant-dictionary = 2&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> versionned provide, both for &quot;deprecated&quot; myspell dictionaries, and new
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell dictionaries.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if the versionned provides indicates the location, we can use it if
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary in Conflicts or Requires in others packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g. currently Firefox searches dictionnaries in /usr/share/dict/mozilla
+</I>&gt;<i> (myspell dictionaries). when we change this location, we could add a
+</I>&gt;<i> Requires enchant-dictionary = 4.
+</I>
+IMO a better way to handle this would be
+Provides: mozilla-dictionary
+Provides: hunspell-dictionary
+Provides: myspell-dictionary
+
+based on which directories are contained in the package, since other
+packages are generally interested in whether the package provides
+dictionaries in a specific location. (i.e. a package using dictionaries
+in /usr/share/hunspell doesn't care if there are some extra dictionaries
+provided in other directories).
+
+&gt;<i> same for hunspell-dictionary and dictionary-%{languagecode}, a
+</I>&gt;<i> versionned provides could indicate the location of the dictionary.
+</I>&gt;<i> if we want to be able to remove easily all the compatibility link in the
+</I>&gt;<i> future, we should really consider this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PS. The changes of enchant will be proposed or accepted later, Funda has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already prepared the package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> new hunspell dictionaries provides enchant-dictionary and obsoletes
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell dictionaries, but enchant still can't use the new hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionaries. I think that it should be fixed ASAP, or we will release
+</I>&gt;<i> an alpha 3 with broken spelling for lot of languages.
+</I>&gt;<i> I propose the attached patches for enchant, so that enchant can use
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionaries from /usr/share/hunspell, /usr/share/myspell, and
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/dict/ooo.
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi, Kamil, WDYT ?
+</I>
+Seems OK.
+
+&gt;<i> same problem with firefox and thunderbird, they use dictionaries from
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/dict/mozilla = myspell dictionaries, that are obsoleted.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Will we wait for the complete migration, to release alpha 3 ? )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> CC: Anssi, enchant and thunderbird maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgan, firefox maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+Anssi Hannula
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