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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: task-obsolete and README.*.urpmi enhancement</H1>
+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20RFC%3A%20task-obsolete%20and%20README.%2A.urpmi%20enhancement&In-Reply-To=%3C4F04A7EA.2020100%40mageia.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: task-obsolete and README.*.urpmi enhancement">anssi at mageia.org
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+ <I>Wed Jan 4 20:26:34 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 04.01.2012 17:53, Luc Menut wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have recently discussed here about task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg09762.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg09762.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3786">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3786</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think that we need to inform the user about the package(s) that we
+</I>&gt;<i> will obsolete and remove on his system (and why: security, ..).
+</I>&gt;<i> So I tried to use README.*.urpmi to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i> But I found that currently, urpmi and rpmdrake don't handle very well
+</I>&gt;<i> optional README.*.urpmi (%ghost); they always display information's
+</I>&gt;<i> screen, even if the file doesn't exist.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I propose here 2 enhancements for README.*.urpmi (POC patch for
+</I>&gt;<i> urpm/install.pm, and task-obsolete.spec in attachment):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) add support for optional README.*.urpmi (%ghost in spec):
+</I>&gt;<i> This will allow to build this README.*.urpmi at install time in %pre,
+</I>&gt;<i> %post or %trigger only when it's necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i> One use case from the recent past in my mind:
+</I>&gt;<i> we have no way to inform users that still use nspluginwrapper + i586
+</I>&gt;<i> flashplayer on x86_64 (and only them), that this is now deprecated and
+</I>&gt;<i> they should replace the i586 by the x86_64 flashplayer,
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146#c22">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146#c22</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146#c25">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146#c25</A>
+</I>
+This change seems reasonable.
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+&gt;<i> 2) handle README.*.(obsolete|deprecated).urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to display informations about the deprecated or obsoleted
+</I>&gt;<i> package(s), I suggest to handle 2 new kinds of README.*.urpmi:
+</I>&gt;<i> - README.&quot;nameObsoletedPackage&quot;.obsolete.urpmi to inform about the
+</I>&gt;<i> package we obsolete by task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g. java-1.6.0-sun*, <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - README.&quot;nameDeprecatedPackage&quot;.deprecated.urpmi to inform about
+</I>&gt;<i> package that we considere as deprecated, but we have no reason (no
+</I>&gt;<i> vulnerability, security, ...) to force uninstallation (task-deprecated?).
+</I>
+I don't understand the need for this one, isn't this just the same as
+README.urpmi?
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+&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>
+
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+Anssi Hannula
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