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Please do not abuse this software. +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> guillomovitch<guillomovitch> 2.4-0.b1.1.mga2: +</I>>>>>>><i> + Revision: 189630 +</I>>>>>>><i> - drop epoch, we don't care about updating from mdv anymore +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> We don't? +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Oh yes we do. Atleast from 2010.1 +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> We did for 1, not for 2 or cauldron or anything else. So as long the +</I>>>><i> package is not pushed on 1, I think we agreed that people could not care +</I>>>><i> about upgrade path from Mandriva. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, I don't like that, IMO we should not remove upgradeability so +</I>>><i> soon, even if we won't officially support it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, if we do not officially support it, then we do not support it, +</I>><i> that's all. There is no "that's unofficially supported" or stuff like +</I>><i> that. Supported mean "we will do test and fix bug if they happen", and +</I>><i> not supported mean "we reserve our right to not do anything". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And that's exactly what happen right now. +</I> +IMO there is a level between "officially supported" and "we +intentionally break it", which means that we advise against it but do +not hinder people from doing it. + +Also, I personally do fix any upgradeability bugs for the last several +releases if such are reported to me (though you are right that I do not +specifically test them, hence "unsupported". + +>><i> But anyway, this affects people doing 2010.1->mga1->mga2 as well... Or +</I>>><i> are you saying that isn't supported either, and people should do new +</I>>><i> installs?? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We do not support upgrading mdv2010.1 rpms with rpm from mga2, so if a +</I>><i> maintainer want to remove this, he can. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Someone doing mdv2010.1->mga1 will end with a mix of mdv2010.1 and mga1 +</I>><i> if the system is not cleaned, and that's not something we should +</I>><i> support, not more than mga X + any random repository upgrade to mga X+1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IE, that's not mga1 -> mga2, that's mga1 + 3rd party repo that happened +</I>><i> to work by chance to mga2. +</I> +I have to strongly disagree with this. If upgrading from 2010.1 to mga1 +is officially supported (and it is), we can't say "you can't upgrade +your mga1 system to mga2 anymore because you have some old pkgs +installed which we never asked you to remove" (assuming no non-mdv 3rd +party repos here). + +Upgrading the distribution via path N -> N+1 -> N+2 -> N+3 -> N+4 +(without extra repositories) should *always* be supported, and I see no +reason to break that for the mdv->mga transition point either. + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010954.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010970.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dsniff-2.4-0.b1.1.mga2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10956">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10956">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10956">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10956">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |