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Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are +</I>>><i> related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GNOME is not the same as KDE. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Eye of GNOME is part of GNOME Core (things which should be installed +</I>><i> together): +</I>><i>  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A> +</I>><i> As it is part of Core, anything in GNOME is ok to assume that it is +</I>><i> installed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is a separate "apps" section listed at: +</I>><i>  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A> +</I>><i> These consist of applications which closely follow GNOME. Meaning: +</I>><i> they're QA tested, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Aside from the "apps" section, there are loads of other modules. +</I>><i> Everything in total is at: +</I>><i>  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/</A> +</I>><i> You see e.g. xchat-gnome. Something in /sources/, but not in "Core", nor +</I>><i> in "Apps". It doesn't follow the GNOME release schedule, translation +</I>><i> freezes, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regarding eog: +</I>><i> Anything wanting to call eog within GNOME should of course use +</I>><i> freedesktop.org specifications. So if you've installed something other +</I>><i> than eog, it should still work. Still, from upstream POV it is a +</I>><i> distribution bug if there wasn't any image viewer installed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In practice, not installing everything by default should be more or less +</I>><i> ok. But that's not how things are released or assumed to be. It it just +</I>><i> by using freedesktop.org specifications that things still work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But things still working doesn't mean that eog is not assumed to be +</I>><i> installed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anyway, I'm ok with discussing after Mageia 2 as suggested in another +</I>><i> email. I have no idea if "Core" + dependencies would fit on a cd anyway +</I>><i> (don't believe it would) + I can mention on +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/">http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/</A> that Mageia 2 users should install +</I>><i> "task-gnome" to get the full experience. +</I> +I see your point and understand upstream POV of Gnome. The other POV +is the user's POV who wants a "minimal" installation with Gnome as the +basis but with a few applications only. IMHO this is what a +"task-foo-minimal" is made for. So after this task-foo-minimal I have +to install only : + - web browser (for mail, www, downloads), + - mc (filemanager), + - vim (editor), + - vlc (music, video), + - mcc (including the draktools). Done. + +(just an example of what I would do for my netbook, others may want +another set of applications). + +Going by the upstream POV we don't need a task-gnome-minimal at all, +you can safely remove it. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="012081.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="012084.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#12083">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#12083">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#12083">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#12083">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |