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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 14/02/12 23:21 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll test it shortly. I think there is a slight problem when dracut gets
+</I>&gt;<i> updated at the same time as the kernel, udev, or anything else that is
+</I>&gt;<i> going to get installed in the initramfs.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Rather then triggering the running of dracut when the kernel gets
+</I>&gt;<i> installed,
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it would be better to have something that runs at the end of urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> or MageiaUpdate, that check to see if dracut or anything in the existing
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs has been updated, and if so, then run dracut.
+</I>
+Strangely enough I was thinking vaguely along the same lines. My issue
+was udev specifically. Sadly working out exactly when to rebuild the
+initramfs is pretty tricky, e.g. if lvm or dm tools are updated do we
+really need them in this particular setup's initramfs? Should we rebuild
+anyway (it should be safe) and accept the unnecessary work in those
+cases? Might be a reasonable thing to do...
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+I guess then a filetrigger could be written that checks for files
+certain locations and triggers an initrd rebuild. For the kernel it
+would only build one, but for udev, dm, lvm etc. it would rebuild all of
+them...
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+Might confuse some people however and create cases working systems are
+hosed unnecessarily, and I'm not sure how much of real, practical
+problem it is to simply have a slightly outdated tools in the initram
+fs? Perhaps we just need to get ordering better on updates such that
+udev, lvm, dm etc. are all ordered before kernel during updates? Maybe
+that will solve 95% of the issues?
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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