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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 05/02/12 17:59 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 08/10/11 20:05 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 8 October 2011 19:35, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've just pushed some changes that disable OSS sound under PulseAudio
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sound profile.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to use OSS apps with PulseAudio, please install &quot;ossp&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package which I've also just submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think ultimately we'll disable ALSA OSS emulation completely and use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ossp in both PA and non-PA modes but I hear that the non-PA usage isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quite as nice, so I'm holding off doing this just yet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then task-pa should suggests ossp...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm undecided about this. I'm not sure if the default setup should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> include OSS sound support or not. Perhaps it would be better left as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something that users install if they need it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we'll eventually have to go through all the packages that require
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> soundwrapper, perhaps we could either:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a) Replace the soundwrapper require with a ossp require.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> b) Patch soundwrapper such that it's a noop if osspd is running and make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it require ossp.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The latter would mean less churn on packages, but it's arguably just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delaying the inevitable work of doing it eventually.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've released and uploaded a new version of soundwrapper (first one in 4 years :o) that is a no-op if osspd is running.
+</I>
+
+Nice one David! Thank you so much :)
+
+I fixed the ACL issues in osspd the other week, so users should be able
+to use the /dev/dsp device quite happily now without any hacks.
+
+There are still some experimental patches (to cuse, kernel and osspd
+IIRC) that will enable mmap support which *should* be the final missing
+link for full OSS support in some games.
+
+At some point after mga2 we might want to consider dropping oss support
+fully, except via osspd, and thus soundwrapper might eventually be
+unneeded... but that discussion certainly doesn't need to happen today
+and it's not really a problem either way in my opinion - just a matter
+of how &quot;progressive&quot; we want to be :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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