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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Feb 13 11:04:21 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 13 February 2012 10:55, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; got mcc too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It cannot be put somewhere else? Just wondering, I thought the
+</I>&gt;<i> installation also was able to look at other things than just strictly
+</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome-minimal (e.g. a generic &quot;Graphical Desktop&quot;).
+</I>
+Yes through rpmsrate, and again urpmi doesn't use it
+
+&gt;<i> Regarding minimal installation: if you really do a minimal installation,
+</I>&gt;<i> then install GNOME. IMO, I would expect only GNOME related things, but
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe that is more my assumption on why someone would do a minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> installation.
+</I>
+AFAIC one should get the same experience as when choosing the desktop
+during installation.
+What's more as it is a suggest, nothing prevent it to be removed.
+
+And it makes testing through urpmi more predictive regarding the installer
+
+We've move quite a lot of things from rpmsrate into task* over the years.
+That's just one more.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 3) because that's the right place to do it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me it doesn't seem like the logical place. GNOME doesn't require
+</I>&gt;<i> drakconf, nor does KDE. It is something part of the distro. So as soon
+</I>&gt;<i> as anything graphical is installed, you'll likely want it.
+</I>
+Again, this is not a strict require but a suggest
+
+What's more we don't have a better place and strictly speaking:
+1) task-gnome* doesn't actually require any of the packages it either requires
+ or suggests
+2) a GNOME desktop doesn't really require a cd burning tool or a browser or
+ whatever in order to show up &amp; work...
+ so the same could be said to most requires &amp; suggests.
+
+&gt;<i> To be clear: Not objecting or suggesting to change; clearly you have
+</I>&gt;<i> more experience. Just wondering and trying to learn :)
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