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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+<PRE>Am 09.02.2012 21:56, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 09 februari 2012 13:04:00 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 09.02.2012 13:35, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ihmo, the users who want the latest versions will not even wait one week,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and will grab them from upstream. If we really wanted the latest release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone could backport them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And backports work since what time?
+</I>&gt;<i> that is irrelevant, and we should not assume it will not be ready.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the end users will benefit too, because the modules/plugins will still
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work and not being unstable at every update. as a long time stable user,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i prefer the ESR... we've been complaining about too short
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> releasecycles... this is the answer, we should use it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most users don't know what to do with tarball. They only know that their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> browser doesn't have latest promoted changes. And that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution is doing something wrong for them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We were complaining because extensions didn't work. I don't know how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> many plugins there were with problems. Can't remember any myself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nonbinary extensions are now compatible by default, so one problem less.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ESR means QA testing anyway. It's only bugfixes but that doesn't mean
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you can update w/o testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> iinm our update policy dictates that our updates should only have updates in
+</I>&gt;<i> it, and no new features... (unless there is no such supported version)
+</I>Our update policy already has an exception for Firefox, and so far there were
+no bigger issues during updates from our initial 4.0 to 10.0. And if most other
+distros don't use ESR, we're kind of alienated, and users will ask why we do that,
+because we're not aimed at enterprise usage currently.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, now there is... Either the new versions with extra features go into
+</I>&gt;<i> backports, or not at all. if this becomes a problem, then it's one more reason
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix the backports.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we have a clear policy, we should follow it.
+</I>Hypothetically, it would be kinda useless to have two versions of our default
+browser,
+meaning twice the QA and support, and backports are surely not opened solely
+for firefox.
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