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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sat Feb 4 10:32:45 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Michel Catudal a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hour, I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have installed both ubuntu and mageia with no problem with regard to
+</I>&gt;<i> booting ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;<i> You must have left ubuntu put the bootloader on the MBR. If you are
+</I>&gt;<i> going to install several Linux distribution you should install the OS
+</I>&gt;<i> on partitions and not on the MBR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On my PC I use xosl as a bootloader and always install grub on the
+</I>&gt;<i> boot partition. A few years back I got burned when I forgot to change
+</I>&gt;<i> the default.
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, including
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is sorta
+</I>&gt;<i> hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It
+</I>&gt;<i> should be on the top with boxes with the choice of where we want it
+</I>&gt;<i> and a message that is not cryptic and makes it obvious what that does.
+</I>&gt;<i> That way I don't see where we could accidentaly screw up our system.
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no problem if you have only one operating system to have grub
+</I>&gt;<i> on the MBR but brain dead to put it there when you have several OS.
+</I>&gt;<i> Specially when you have diffferent incompatible versions of grub.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The way I recovered the messed up boot was to boot on my xosl boot
+</I>&gt;<i> diskette and restore its boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the layout of one of my hard disks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P&#233;riph&#233;rique Amorce D&#233;but Fin Blocs Id Syst&#232;me
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda1 1 1 8001 78 Inconnu &lt;-- xosl
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda2 2 261 2088450 6 FAT16 &lt;-- Free
+</I>&gt;<i> Dos
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda3 * 262 276 120487+ 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda4 277 243201 1951295062+ 5 Etendue
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda5 277 750 3807373+ 82 Linux swap /
+</I>&gt;<i> Solaris
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda6 751 765 120456 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda7 766 780 120456 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8 781 795 120456 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda9 796 60000 475564131 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda10 60001 120000 481949968+ 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda11 120001 160000 321299968+ 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda12 160001 200000 321299968+ 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda13 200001 243201 347012001 83 Linux
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>So the key point seems to be a separate boot partition, which links to
+the root partitions of the different systems, which each have their
+system-specific boot loaders.
+That could probably be done with grub without too much problem, if it
+can't be installed like that already.
+(The initial boot step simply chain-loading to whatever system, as it
+already does with ms-based systems.)
+Sounds like a lot more stable approach. And it shouldn't take any
+longer to boot to Linux.
+Or maybe we should package xosl ?
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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