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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Wed Dec 12 10:30:54 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 12/12/12 04:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 03:56:30 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can I ask:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Do you have /var on a separate partition?
+</I>&gt;<i> no, same patition. I have / swap and /home
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If so, did my updated package allow you to mount it OK in the initrd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (you can pass rd.break=mount and then check the /sysroot/var dir to see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if it's mounted - you will have to type &quot;exit&quot; once to actually do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mount IIRC).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. If the conversion is done with rd.break=prepivot, does the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /sysroot/var/run symlink exist (again you may need to do &quot;exit&quot; once to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually trigger the conversion).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, then something is later on *removing* the /var/run symlink again.
+</I>&gt;<i> I only know its not there and that is why the network doesn't start. Also about for other services
+</I>&gt;<i> need to timeout during boot because of the missing /var/run
+</I>
+Ahh so that's where the timeout problems occur. OK, that makes sense indeed.
+
+Just need to work out when /var/run symlink when missing.
+
+Sadly, I need to get systems where this keeps reoccuring, sadly by
+completing the upgrade fully it now means we can't debug the causes.
+
+Hopefully someone will be able to reproduce it on a snapshotted VM so we
+can reply various scenarios :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> In my earlier tests it was mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> killed the symlinks. I made sure to disable it by rm'ing the symlink:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.servic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> e
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I fear it is somehow still running for you and killing of /var/run.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be but I don't know what. I know need the system to do some packaging.
+</I>
+Yeah completely understandable. I'm sure we'll find a way to reproduce
+it in laboratory settings :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> after network runs, remove the /var/run (otherwise filesystem will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, /var/run should just be a symlink to /run then filesystem installs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fine - this is how it's meant to be, but something somewhere is going
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrong!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then use urpmi --auto-update
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( got the message &quot;/&quot; is mount read-only a few times and had to re-boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and go throught the /var/run cycle as desribed above)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something has to be nuking the /var/run symlink on your system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does &quot;systemctl status mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service&quot; indicate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's been run? Does
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [/usr]/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> service still exist somehow?
+</I>&gt;<i> not anymore. Teh problem went away after about 1,000packges have been upgraded or maybe before.
+</I>&gt;<i> I still have
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva-boot-links
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva-save-dmesg
+</I>
+
+Yeah, the mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service is no longer shipped in
+cauldron/mga3's initscripts package (with the move to /run it's no
+longer needed).
+
+I'm still confused as to what's causing the problem tho'.
+
+I don't suppose you happen to have a left over broken symlink to
+mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service somewhere in your
+/etc/systemd/system/ tree? If so what's the exact path? (you can safely
+remove it now if it exists).
+
+Col
+
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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