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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 10/12/12 22:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> At first I didn&#8217;t even know task-obsolete existed in the first place so
+</I>&gt;<i> I just followed the procedure Johnny explained. After understanding this
+</I>&gt;<i> mechanism I don&#8217;t feel it was the right thing to do in this case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, because it&#8217;s a small ruby library that&#8217;s probably used by only a
+</I>&gt;<i> handful of people. Second, this library is removed because it&#8217;s eol&#8217;d
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream, but also because no other package use it. It seems to me that
+</I>&gt;<i> it can safely be removed from the mirrors, but removing it from boxes
+</I>&gt;<i> via task-obsolete seems a bit overkill to me, because that package would
+</I>&gt;<i> have been orphaned because nothing requires it (unless someone
+</I>&gt;<i> deliberately installed it, which I doubt)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m not yet sure about this but the way I see task-obsolete is that it
+</I>&gt;<i> should only be used for end-applications, and even then I&#8217;m not
+</I>&gt;<i> comfortable with silently removing things from people&#8217;s machines, I&#8217;d
+</I>&gt;<i> rather use Conflicts instead.
+</I>
+So what if we provide this library and someone uses it as a component in
+some other app they write.
+
+They likely have an expectation that it will continue to be supported
+and that any security vulnerabilities in it are detected and fixed.
+
+If we don't have a mechanism to remove (or at least very strongly
+recommend to remove) package we no longer support, then we are leaving
+users vulnerable.
+
+The orphans system is fine, but it's certainly not as strong a mechanism
+as I think is needed.
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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