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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown</H1>
+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+ <I>Thu Aug 9 21:33:52 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 09/08/12 20:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes because it totally makes sense to have a command to halt the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> operating system but leave the machine using some power for nothing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and preventing you from powering it on with wol). I am sure someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> believes it can be useful in some strange scenario.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's very useful and it was essential for me during the previous release
+</I>&gt;<i> to debug shutdown logic.
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+But you are one of the very few people in the world interested in it,
+and you are doing something special (debugging) so you can run any
+command it.
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+&gt;<i> I want to see and read the debug that happens here and with a regular
+</I>&gt;<i> poweroff the debug disappears before you can read it. It's maybe not
+</I>&gt;<i> something you want to use regularly, but it doesn't mean it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> useful. There were always &quot;poweroff&quot; and &quot;halt&quot; commands - the names
+</I>&gt;<i> speak for themselves, it's just people got used to broken behaviour in
+</I>&gt;<i> the past. If you want to power your machine down, just type &quot;poweroff&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to halt it, then type &quot;halt&quot;. Kinda self explanatory really.
+</I>&gt;<i> Use the right tool for the right job :)
+</I>
+But even since I know it has changed, 10 years habits had me typing
+halt and then saying some bad words as it meant I would not be able to
+power it on again for a few days.
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