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If you cannot issue a halt, it's nigh on impossible +</I>><i> to debug these things, so a patch to systemd would be IMO be a very bad +</I>><i> idea. I wouldn't necessarily be completely against a patch that made +</I>><i> running "halt" work differently to "systemctl halt", but such a patch +</I>><i> would likely be ugly and it's certainly not going to be accepted +</I>><i> upstream and it means inconsistent behaviour and as a result I'd rather +</I>><i> just let people adapt to the current (and IMO correct) behaviour - I +</I>><i> still maintain the old behaviour was broken and this that systemd simply +</I>><i> restores what the behaviour should have been all along. +</I> +The behavior has been incorrect for more than 10 years and everyone +uses it like that. +What is the point of changing the behavior in a way that will make it +do something bad and annoying for most users? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018020.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="018017.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#18022">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#18022">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#18022">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#18022">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |