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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Wed Aug 8 07:35:54 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 07/08/12 12:54 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The package manager (urpmi) can also notify people because it sees which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed packages are not in the configured repositories. Zypper even
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> removes such packages automatically. This would give users the choice to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> keep an 'obsolete' package installed, while that choice doesn't exist
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmq --not-available?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would also remove packages installed from third-party vendors,
+</I>&gt;<i> there are still some proprietary RPM packages out there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is also this command:
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi_rpm-find-leaves -g
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It finds unused library packages, or actually unused packages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> System/Libraries group. But there are quite a few false-positive
+</I>&gt;<i> results, because of packages incorrectly using System/Libraries as
+</I>&gt;<i> group.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Tried it.
+Being cautious, I left about 10 of the 50 or so packages listed. Most
+listed were obviously useless, but otherwise hard to find. Used
+rpmdrake to see their descriptions and remove them.
+Some of the packages seemed to be used by others, if I'm not mistaken.
+Maybe by suggests ?
+
+For everyone's info, -g alone scans System/Libraries.
+Using -g {group} will scan whatever other group.
+
+In sum, a useful tool if used cautiously.
+A lot better than task-obsoletes or whatever else that would remove
+packages indiscriminately and/or automatically.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
+
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