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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 16/04/12 14:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> BTW why not displaying a message &quot;switch to tty2 for a login&quot;?
+</I>
+In the normal case of X or prefdm.service failing, this is exactly what
+happens (it's actually a message saying &quot;your graphical login is broken
+blah blah, press any key to switch to multi-user.target (aka runlevel 3&quot;.
+
+This case is different (if I'm correct in my assumption). The fact is
+that the non-lsb legacy initscripts impose a very, very strict ordering
+on startup (based on their priority numbers in /etc/rcX.d/S??foo filenames).
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+This strict order is typically full of loops (a -&gt; b -&gt; c -&gt; a), so
+somthing has to give. In order to do that systemd will delete jobs to
+break the loop. Frequently this job turns out to be &quot;the prefdm.server
+start job&quot;. When this happens we simply don't know that things are
+failing in order ot display the error message (likewise, if we added a
+totally separate unit for this it too could be deleted by these jobs).
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+Ultimately the correctly solution is to provide native systemd or
+LSB-compliant sysvinit scripts.
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+I've fixed a couple and have previously linked a spreadsheet where
+everyone can help out and track progress etc.
+
+Col
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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