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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper</H1>
+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper">pterjan at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Apr 16 11:50:29 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:30, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud skrev 16.4.2012 12:20:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 16 April 2012 11:18, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As per an earlier mail on this list regarding apache during upgrade
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mga1 to mga2, it seems that rpm-helper may not get installed earlier
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enough to do systemd transitions for services.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone have any objection to adding a versioned require on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-helper in the rpm spec such that we know it'll be installed early
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when doing a distro upgrade? Any problems with this approach?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So assuming no one has any objections to this, I'll add it to rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> today.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That will work for urpmi that will upgrade rpm first before restarting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but not for installer that doesn't need restarting itself (since we do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not &#160;use the system's urpmi).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But AFAIK installer obeys rpm requires,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so when it installs rpm, it will put rpm-helper in same transaction, wont
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> NO.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Read again what I wrote: installer doesn't do any priority upgrade since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it doesn't need upgrading itself and doesn't use the installed system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, you only mentioned system urpmi (not rpm) first time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but wont installer already use correct rpm/rpm-helper, since it's built from
+</I>&gt;<i> current cauldron packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> (and can be rebuilt again after updated rpm-helper)
+</I>
+rpm yes, rpm-helper I am not sure but wouldn't think so, rpm-helper is
+just a set of scripts and are run inside the chroot
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