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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Apr 16 11:20:29 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 16 April 2012 11:18, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As per an earlier mail on this list regarding apache during upgrade from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mga1 to mga2, it seems that rpm-helper may not get installed earlier
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enough to do systemd transitions for services.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone have any objection to adding a versioned require on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-helper in the rpm spec such that we know it'll be installed early
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when doing a distro upgrade? Any problems with this approach?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So assuming no one has any objections to this, I'll add it to rpm today.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That will work for urpmi that will upgrade rpm first before restarting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but not for installer that doesn't need restarting itself (since we do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not &#160;use the system's urpmi).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But AFAIK installer obeys rpm requires,
+</I>
+yes
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+&gt;<i> so when it installs rpm, it will put rpm-helper in same transaction, wont it ?
+</I>
+NO.
+Read again what I wrote: installer doesn't do any priority upgrade since
+it doesn't need upgrading itself and doesn't use the installed system rpm/urpmi
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+&gt;<i> and since rpm is a priority package, it will be done in the beginning, wont
+</I>&gt;<i> it ?
+</I>
+NO.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> A somewhat nicer fix would be to auto generate some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'needs-systemd-aware-rpm-helper'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> requires for packages providing systemd units, having rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fulfil this provides
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we wouldn't need this.
+</I>
+Yes we do
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