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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 13 17:57:26 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 13/04/12 15:31 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The objections to this have been quite unwarranted. It sounds like some people
+</I>&gt;<i> want to institute a new policy that MySQL security bugs won't be fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Upgrading to newer versions of things isn't ideal, but sometimes it's what has
+</I>&gt;<i> to be done, because there's no other way, and we already do it sometimes in
+</I>&gt;<i> other cases. There's no reason this should be any more controversial.
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+The proposal here was not just to ship a new version, but to ship a
+totally different fork -&gt; mysql -&gt; maridadb (it's even in the subject!).
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+This is why there have been objections. It's not (primarily at least) to
+do with shipping a newer version.
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+&gt;<i> For us, upgrading to MariaDB instead of MySQL 5.5.22 isn't any different than
+</I>&gt;<i> what those other distros have done. MariaDB is as much a newer version of what
+</I>&gt;<i> we have now as MySQL 5.5.22 is. They are both derived from the same code base.
+</I>&gt;<i> Furthermore, the other distros have been able to upgrade it apparently without
+</I>&gt;<i> even having to rebuild anything else, so the potential for damage seems to not
+</I>&gt;<i> be so great after all.
+</I>
+I disagree. It's a totally different package. There are also bugs
+relating to how a service package is enabled/disabled on upgrade which
+might lead to people having the service enabled when they have
+previously specifically disabled it.
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+Should we then patch and upgrade rpm-helper too to deal with this issue?
+We've not even addressed it in Cauldron yet, but then I think it may be
+something that users could live with in a distro upgrade, but they
+certainly would not expect it from a security update.
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+This idea just seems wrong for a stable update. Would we have shipped LO
+rather than OOo as an update? I don't think so. Would we have shipped
+Xorg rather than the old X as an update? I don't think so either. Why
+make a special exception for MariaDB?
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+I would far rather ship a newer MySQL package than (to use a cliche)
+change horses in midstream[1]
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+Col
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+1. <A HREF="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/115400.html">http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/115400.html</A>
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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