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+ <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B>
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+ <I>Thu Apr 12 03:55:46 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/4/11 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> However, seems that in almost every install seahorse might be installed
+</I>&gt;<i> (tv saying that we go from something like glib -&gt; gio -&gt; .. -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> seahorse). Almost every install might have glib going to seahorse. That
+</I>&gt;<i> bit is the concern. I don't care about minimal; in a minimal, it just
+</I>&gt;<i> should not install suggests and I really don't care if that currently
+</I>&gt;<i> works in the installer or not.
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently almost every install might end up having gnome-keyring. Even
+</I>&gt;<i> if often it isn't used. That's a concern.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> So, yeah, move the suggests and remove totem-mozilla from CAT_KDE. But
+</I>&gt;<i> not because of the minimal install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This might result in some users not having seahorse anymore though.
+</I>
+OK. So I have some conclusion:
+- A minimal install should not install any Suggests, if it does,
+please report a bug (bug #5209). -&gt; The Suggests don't need to be
+moved.
+- Instead, Requires will affect minimal install. -&gt; Change Requires:
+gnome-keyring in libgnome-keyring to Suggests.
+- remove totem-mozilla (and other gnome stuff, if neecessary) from CAT_KDE.
+
+Olav, I've committed the change of libgnome-keyring to svn. Please
+review and submit it if it's acceptable to you. (You are still the
+maintainer of libgnome-keyring.)
+
+I don't know how to change CAT_KDE in rpmstrate, so that should be
+done by someone else.
+
+Thanks.
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