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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] painful discussion n&#176;1: debloating">olav at vitters.nl
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+ <I>Wed Apr 11 11:44:43 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 05:14:53PM +0800, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i> I suppose you agreed to move the suggests if it does affect minimal install:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/013365.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/013365.html</A>
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+Not really. If you select a minimal install no suggests should be
+installed.
+
+However, seems that in almost every install seahorse might be installed
+(tv saying that we go from something like glib -&gt; gio -&gt; .. -&gt;
+seahorse). Almost every install might have glib going to seahorse. That
+bit is the concern. I don't care about minimal; in a minimal, it just
+should not install suggests and I really don't care if that currently
+works in the installer or not.
+Currently almost every install might end up having gnome-keyring. Even
+if often it isn't used. That's a concern.
+
+Around GNOME 3.6 gnome-keyring will be replaced with libsecret. So
+although gnomekeyring-&gt;seahorse currently makes sense, in future we'd
+need to do things differently anyway.
+
+So, yeah, move the suggests and remove totem-mozilla from CAT_KDE. But
+not because of the minimal install.
+
+This might result in some users not having seahorse anymore though.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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