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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 30/03/12 18:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 30.03.2012 17:04, Thierry Vignaud kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 16:00, nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> database
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In that case, I don't think so.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can thus popup a README.urpmi explaining what happened.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also user can find out this when running rpm -ql java-sun-foobar
+</I>&gt;<i> We can obsolete it in mga2 and create an empty package for mga 1,
+</I>&gt;<i> explaining what's happening. So in mga2 we get rid of it and in mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> people are warned that it's now removed because of its security issues.
+</I>
+That won't work unless people have a fully up-to-date mga1 before they
+upgrade to mga2. Maybe this is &quot;not supported&quot;, but I'm pretty confident
+it will actually happen!
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