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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+ <I>Mon Apr 2 00:00:26 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 22/03/2012 02:51, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I also noticed two of the php subpackages adding the apache user in %post.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should they be doing this, should they Requires(post): webserver-base, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should this be handled some other way?
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, that's wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either they need apache itself, in this case this dependency is already
+</I>&gt;<i> ensured. Either they can be used without a web server, in this case they
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't use apache server anyway.
+</I>
+Well a dependency on apache wouldn't be ensured unless they required apache-mod_php, so for now I added Requires(pre): webserver-base and
+removed their manually adding (and deleting!) of the apache user. One of the packages puts a log file with the httpd logs, so it should
+probably require apache. I'm not sure the exact semantics of those two (php-fpm and php-session if you're interested).
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+There's another problem, however, since the expat update. Since libexpat.la was removed, php won't rebuild.
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