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+<PRE>2011/5/11 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 11 May 2011 14:03, Z&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes i also agree that should exist this option, and AFAIK when patents
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> were still active, it was needed to turn bytecode interpreter, and in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that time fonts were smooth, speacially for whos used to use small
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fonts, but even for who uses bigger fonts, its always better to not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have bytecode interpreter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How do you know what would look better for those who use bigger fonts
+</I>&gt;<i> if you use small fonts yourself? :)
+</I>
+I also can change to bigger fonts...
+
+&gt;<i> How do you know what would look better for other users who use small
+</I>&gt;<i> fonts but different types of monitors, have different eyesight, i.e.
+</I>&gt;<i> different preferences of how fonts looks best in their eyes?
+</I>
+Until bytecode interpreter wasnt enabled, there wasnt complains about
+how fonts look.
+
+So can you explain why werent there complain untill bytecode was enabled?
+Seams you only know to say that i dont know how fonts looks best in
+other users eyes, well seams obvious, no?
+Else wouldnt be there any complain.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> (by the way, still in mandriva 2010.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bytecode interpreter was off).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the patent hadn't expired yet when 2010.1 was released, and
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010.1 still uses freetype2-2.3.12 (and no one enabled the BCI after
+</I>&gt;<i> the patent expired).
+</I>
+Thats was to show that until there werent any complains about font
+rendering, and that all started when bytecode interpreter was enabled
+(im not discussing patents)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/11 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#932;&#949;&#964;&#940;&#961;&#964;&#951; 11 &#924;&#940;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2011 05:57:07 Z&#233; &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In mandriva sincepatent expiration in freetype, fonts display wasnt
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> smoth anymore and appeared ugly fonts, this used to exist just in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> plf..
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But since theres no patents issues pending, why not old rendering
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> algorithms by default (disable bytecode interpreter), that way fonts
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will have a better rendering and look.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is most true for guys that are used to use small fonts, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> example im used to use Sans size 8, like its now in mageia, they dont
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> look very good and also appear smaller that if using bytecode
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> interpreter disabled, so to be able to have a good rendering font
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> look, i always repackage freetype2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why not Mageia start using also bytecode interpreter disabled by default?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I reported a wish here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1240">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1240</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Z&#233;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Z&#233;
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20why%20not%20disable%20bytecode%20interpreter%20in%20freetype2%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DCB2C1D.1090507%40iki.fi%3E"
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+<PRE>On 12.05.2011 03:33, Z&#233; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Until bytecode interpreter wasnt enabled, there wasnt complains about
+</I>&gt;<i> how fonts look.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So can you explain why werent there complain untill bytecode was enabled?
+</I>&gt;<i> Seams you only know to say that i dont know how fonts looks best in
+</I>&gt;<i> other users eyes, well seams obvious, no?
+</I>&gt;<i> Else wouldnt be there any complain.
+</I>
+They didn't complain because they simply used PLF freetype.
+
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+<PRE>Seams your confused, plf freetype it simply put fonts worst,, thats
+why i also never used plf freetype, maybe you should read some
+mandriva discussions in ML.
+Dont get why your refering PLF, i didnt refered it in this thread.
+
+2011/5/12 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 12.05.2011 03:33, Z&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Until bytecode interpreter wasnt enabled, there wasnt complains about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how fonts look.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So can you explain why werent there complain untill bytecode was enabled?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Seams you only know to say that i dont know how fonts looks best in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other users eyes, well seams obvious, no?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Else wouldnt be there any complain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They didn't complain because they simply used PLF freetype.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+Z&#233;
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+<PRE>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:48:36PM +0100, Z&#233; wrote:
+&gt;<i>Like i said a user can choose what layout better fits his needs, if
+</I>&gt;<i>its top or bottom its simply the user prefers, but the user should
+</I>&gt;<i>continue with same layout.
+</I>
+Imagine how readable this list would become if everyone replied to the
+mail of others using their own preferences... things would become
+impossible to follow really quick! It's not a hard rule, but simply a
+matter of convention to keep things understandable to all.
+
+&gt;<i>Well seams your wanting to turn this into a big issue, that way ill
+</I>&gt;<i>just drop this discussion here, i have better things to do.
+</I>
+Despite having been given pointers to the relevant netiquette and wiki
+articles several times you continue to top post. That just seems rude to
+me. There probably is no need for you to drop this discussion as the other
+party might well decide it's not worth having a discussion with someone
+who pays so little attention to common conversational conventions and
+courtesies.
+
+My 2 cents worth,
+
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+Z&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Seams your confused, plf freetype it simply put fonts worst,,
+</I>
+Please don't mistake your opinions for facts.
+As a user, I have always installed the PLF freetype (and I am still
+enjoying it on the very machine I am typing this message on) because the
+default Mandriva rendering was horrible to me. Not everyone shares the
+same opinions about font rendering.
+
+Back to lurking
+
+Antoine.
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+
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:56:25 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Z&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seams your confused, plf freetype it simply put fonts worst,,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please don't mistake your opinions for facts.
+</I>&gt;<i> As a user, I have always installed the PLF freetype (and I am still
+</I>&gt;<i> enjoying it on the very machine I am typing this message on) because the
+</I>&gt;<i> default Mandriva rendering was horrible to me. Not everyone shares the
+</I>&gt;<i> same opinions about font rendering.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Back to lurking
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Before the 2009.1 , i used plf rpm but i did nt have any problem:
+<A HREF="http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&amp;t=36173">http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&amp;t=36173</A>
+
+The plf package, i dont understand why since the 2009.1, breaks my system
+fonts in a very significant way. I have Greek localization. My wife, with
+the same version of Mandriva in her laptop but with French localization did
+nt have any complain.
+
+So the aspect of the fonts has to depend to the localization, the fonts and
+may be their size and the screen size.
+
+When someone like me, has this problem of fonts, he cannot even use his
+system, he has a real problem. It costed me many uninstalls and installs and
+many hours of investigation.
+
+For that i asked a user friendly solution, is very important for them who
+are affected.
+
+Personnaly, after all, i am able now to set my pc to fit my needs but i
+continue to search a solution for other users who will be front of this
+problem in the future
+
+
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+ <B>Stefano Negro</B>
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+I was thinking for a translation process for Mageia, but I don't know how is
+now working.
+Coming from ubuntu I tried sometimes the lauchpad web [1] and I found easy
+and powerful against the classic process of downloading the po file locally,
+mainly for the suggested translations.
+I found Pootle [2] that maybe it's well known here.
+Could be used for our purposes?
+My 2c.
+
+--
+Bye
+Stblack
+
+[1] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/kkrQj0">http://bit.ly/kkrQj0</A>
+[2] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/2dKMD6">http://bit.ly/2dKMD6</A>
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+<PRE>Am 12.05.2011 16:13, schrieb Stefano Negro:
+&gt;<i> Hi all.
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking for a translation process for Mageia, but I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> how is now working.
+</I>&gt;<i> Coming from ubuntu I tried sometimes the lauchpad web [1] and I found
+</I>&gt;<i> easy and powerful against the classic process of downloading the po file
+</I>&gt;<i> locally, mainly for the suggested translations.
+</I>&gt;<i> I found Pootle [2] that maybe it's well known here.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be used for our purposes?
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2c.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i> Stblack
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/kkrQj0">http://bit.ly/kkrQj0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/2dKMD6">http://bit.ly/2dKMD6</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Currently we are using transifex (transifex.mageia.org). Never used
+launchpad but I thinks it's quite similar.
+
+See our documentation for further infos:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators</A>
+
+Pootle was also mentioned in some discussions but AFAIK no one really
+checked if it's useful for us.
+
+For which language do you want to translate?
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
+
+P.S.: No use for short links in the ML. So I would prefer to use and see
+the original link :)
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+&gt;<i> Hi all.
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking for a translation process for Mageia, but I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> how is now working.
+</I>&gt;<i> Coming from ubuntu I tried sometimes the lauchpad web [1] and I found
+</I>&gt;<i> easy and powerful against the classic process of downloading the po file
+</I>&gt;<i> locally, mainly for the suggested translations.
+</I>&gt;<i> I found Pootle [2] that maybe it's well known here.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be used for our purposes?
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2c.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i> Stblack
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/kkrQj0">http://bit.ly/kkrQj0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="http://bit.ly/2dKMD6">http://bit.ly/2dKMD6</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+didn't realized: that's a topic for the translation ML not the dev-list.
+We should probably proceed on the i18n-ml (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>).
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+<PRE>On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 21:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 02.05.2011 13:53, Alberto Girlando wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3) MSI notebook, Intel i7, NVidia GE force GTX 425
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here the live does not boot, it stops at the moment
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of showing the language choice. I had problems
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also in the installation of mandriva. However,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there I could get system starting in VESA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With other live distro (Ubuntu-based) I could get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the system working imposing -xforcevesa at startup.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With mageia this trick does not work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't comment on the actual issue without /var/log/Xorg.0.log and
+</I>&gt;<i> dmesg, but on Mageia livecd you can force vesa with boot option
+</I>&gt;<i> xdriver=vesa
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I was using a live edition, the computer is not
+in my exclusive use. So when the system was
+freezing at boot, there was no way to access
+the info. But with your suggestion I was able
+to boot with X-windows. From the experience
+with Mandriva, good operating conditions can
+be otained once I install the Nvidia
+proprietary drivers (again, I could not make this test
+on the live). Maybe the suggestion xdriver=vesa can
+be put in the help screen.
+
+The live version works well on another old netbook,
+Asus M3000Np (celeron, Intel 810 video). Since
+Mandriva 2009, this computer started to give problems
+with the graphic driver: after a short period in X-window,
+the system, or better, X, was freezing. I could avoid this
+if before entering as user, I put the computer in sleep mode.
+Very strange. I also called for a bug, but since the problem was
+so singular, no one addressed it in mandriva. With the live
+version everything is OK.
+
+Alberto
+--
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+ <B>Balcaen John</B>
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+ <I>Thu May 12 16:46:35 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Muparser was imported in mageia with the 1.34 version, however it seems that
+scidavis &amp; qtiplot do not work well this version [1].
+Since mandriva 2010.1 is providing 1.32 version, i choose to ask for a remove
+of the 1.34 version from repository &amp; push the 1.32 instead.
+Users with muparser installed will need to uninstall it manually.
+
+Regards,
+
+[1] <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1251">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1251</A>
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=968214&amp;aid=3298663&amp;group_id=199120">http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;atid=968214&amp;aid=3298663&amp;group_id=199120</A>
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+[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?:
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+&gt;<i>When someone like me, has this problem of fonts, he cannot even use his
+</I>&gt;<i>system, he has a real problem. It costed me many uninstalls and installs
+</I>&gt;<i>and many hours of investigation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>For that i asked a user friendly solution, is very important for them who
+</I>&gt;<i>are affected.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Personnaly, after all, i am able now to set my pc to fit my needs but i
+</I>&gt;<i>continue to search a solution for other users who will be front of this
+</I>&gt;<i>problem in the future
+</I>
+I can only make one suggestion - which works for me: keep the version one
+is happy with and put the packages in the urpmi skip.list and you won't get
+hurt by an upgrade.
+
+Cheers,
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 01:56 +0100, Z&#233; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Seams your confused, plf freetype it simply put fonts worst,, thats
+</I>&gt;<i> why i also never used plf freetype, maybe you should read some
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva discussions in ML.
+</I>
+I normally use the plf freetype because it's so much better.
+
+And it's generally the answer given to people who don't like the default
+fonts in Mandriva Linux.
+
+Some people will prefer one, some the other. Choice is good ;)
+
+Liam
+
+--
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 12 02:33:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu May 12 21:42:26 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-dev] add new package kvirc to freeze
+</A><A NAME="4640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-dev] Muparser
+</A><A NAME="4647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-dev] tests beta2 live
+</A><A NAME="4646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alberto Girlando
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stefano Negro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004645.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004811.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu May 12 21:42:26 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:39:03 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 12 02:33:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu May 12 21:42:26 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
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+
+<!--0 01305160434- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305160434-01305160733- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01305160434-01305160733-01305161785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01305160434-01305160733-01305161785-01305176092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004811.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01305160434-01305160733-01305161785-01305193569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01305160434-01305160733-01305161785-01305193569-01305199239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01305160434-01305160733-01305161785-01305193569-01305199239-01305229346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?
+</A><A NAME="4648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305181823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-dev] add new package kvirc to freeze
+</A><A NAME="4640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305209625- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stefano Negro
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305209625-01305210831- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01305209625-01305211117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004645.html">[Mageia-dev] Translations
+</A><A NAME="4645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305211251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-dev] tests beta2 live
+</A><A NAME="4646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alberto Girlando
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305211595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-dev] Muparser
+</A><A NAME="4647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu May 12 21:42:26 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:39:03 CEST 2011</i>
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