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+<PRE> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:35:40 -0400, Stew Benedict wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sorry if I break the thread, just signed back up to the list.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to kick things off for secteam, I thought I'd list the process
+</I>&gt;<i> as I
+</I>&gt;<i> remember it from when I worked with Vincent for a couple of years.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to say Mageia needs to follow any of this, and as we're a
+</I>&gt;<i> volunteer
+</I>&gt;<i> organization, I suspect things will be structured a bit differently
+</I>&gt;<i> from
+</I>&gt;<i> a staffing POV than &quot;2 guys mostly dedicated to updates&quot;
+</I>
+ I would personnaly think we should have something as open as possible :
+ - people could learn from looking on how thing goes ( quite important
+ to make sure new
+ blood can come in )
+ - not all updates requires secrecy, and I think that most doesn't ( ie,
+ use
+ public POC, public patches, or are simply not security related )
+ - this would put less pressure on sysadmins to be sure security is not
+ breached
+
+ So try to be open by default, except if we cannot for some specific
+ case ( embargo, non public
+ POC ). This would requires :
+ - acl on task tracker ( likely bugzilla )
+ - some policy about declassification ( ie open issues after publication
+ if the POC can be published,
+ or restrict access )
+
+&gt;<i> Old Process:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * monitor vendor-sec, discuss vulns, patches, negotiate release
+</I>&gt;<i> schedule,
+</I>&gt;<i> also watch other distro updates, for things we may have missed
+</I>
+ We could ask to maintainers to help on that regard,
+ or, like proposed for mageia-app-db and package testing, have a list of
+ people
+ dedicated on gathering such informations. For example, someone say &quot;I
+ take
+ care of watching security for libreoffice and will warn secteam if
+ something need to be done&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> * check our srpm database (Vincent later reworked this) for all the
+</I>&gt;<i> places the affected source code
+</I>&gt;<i> may be buried (many packages embed copies of other source)
+</I>
+ I would propose to have a policy of using system wide library and do
+ not
+ allow bundled copy ( but this would be likely annoying for some case ).
+
+ And also, if you need some specific support on Sophie, do not hesitate
+ to ask.
+
+
+&gt;<i> * apply/adapt patches for all supported releases/architectures (may
+</I>&gt;<i> have
+</I>&gt;<i> been published on vendor-sec,
+</I>&gt;<i> or from another distro package, or extracted from upstream)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** when we we supporting several releases, with Enterprise stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> being quite old, reworking the patches at times was difficult
+</I>&gt;<i> ** policy changed over time and these days many things bump up to
+</I>&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;<i> new release, rather than patching
+</I>
+ Depend on the effort, and the software. While I think minimal change is
+ good,
+ not everybody agree so we should discuss to find a common ground or a
+ policy.
+
+&gt;<i> * build in chroot to preserve the original build env (moved to iurt
+</I>&gt;<i> around the time I left)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** if we had trouble building the package, contact the maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i> for
+</I>&gt;<i> help
+</I>
+ This mean that we need to make sure packages are easy to rebuild. But
+ iurt
+ helped a lot on that regard.
+
+&gt;<i> * acquire or write a POC (proof of concept) to test that the vuln is
+</I>&gt;<i> corrected, if not, re-patch/re-test
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * test the app for basic functionality, that we haven't introduced
+</I>&gt;<i> regressions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** bugfix updates went to QA for testing, this was a big
+</I>&gt;<i> blocker/delay at times
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * upload packages to main mirror, wait a few hours and release the
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement (we had several scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> that facilitated getting packages in the right place, signing
+</I>&gt;<i> them,
+</I>&gt;<i> uploading, etc.)
+</I>
+ This would be doable with youri, so we need to do some kind of wrapper
+ around this to
+ take in account the advisory. Something that would be needed too is a
+ database
+ of such advisory ( and so we can start to give id of such advisory such
+ as MGA-2011-001, etc ).
+--
+ Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>On 16 April 2011 10:10, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> * check our srpm database (Vincent later reworked this) for all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> places the affected source code
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; may be buried (many packages embed copies of other source)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would propose to have a policy of using system wide library and do not
+</I>&gt;<i> allow bundled copy ( but this would be likely annoying for some case ).
+</I>
+That was the policy at mdv too.
+We'd too much pain with all those copies.
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+<PRE>On 04/16/2011 06:49 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 16 April 2011 10:10, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * check our srpm database (Vincent later reworked this) for all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> places the affected source code
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may be buried (many packages embed copies of other source)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would propose to have a policy of using system wide library and do not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> allow bundled copy ( but this would be likely annoying for some case ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That was the policy at mdv too.
+</I>&gt;<i> We'd too much pain with all those copies.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And for the most part this worked. If I remember correctly, the biggest
+pain points were xpdf code being cloned all over and libtiff?
+I believe the xpdf situation has improved considerably since then,
+although I haven't spent a lot of time with the code of the various
+readers. I seemed like we had an xpdf vuln once a month or so, which
+triggered updates of several packages. At least having the tool to
+search the source tarballs gave us an easy way to check possible areas
+that might be at risk (although the initial database load took some time
+(clock time, not people time).
+
+Other suggestions on openness make perfect sense to me. No need to be
+&quot;secret&quot; about anything unless we really have to.
+
+--
+Stew Benedict
+New Tazewell, TN
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Anne nicolas wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Following tonight's meeting, we will start one week discussion about
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers policy. Some questions to be discussed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - shall we have ACL's on svn, submits?
+</I>&gt;<i> - what about having co-maintenership or teams? How shall we manage this?
+</I>&gt;<i> - what about sensitive packages ?
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pleas make any comments and proposals we could discus to build it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Final decisions will be taken during next packagers meeting (20th of
+</I>&gt;<i> april)
+</I>
+There seem to be two issues here:
+
+1. A maintainer database, with rules for updating the db
+ This does not have to change package submission or svn access,
+ but can be used for bug assignment, mailing package check reports and
+ package svn commit logs, etc.
+
+2. Restrictions on:
+ a) maintainer db modifications
+ b) package submission and/or svn access, based on the contents of the
+ maintainer db
+
+Of course those 2 issues are related: any upload restrictions allowed by
+policy must be supported in the maintainer db. We don't need to implement
+everying at once, however. A maintainer db without upload restrictions
+will already be a big improvement over the current situation.
+
+
+There are 2 kinds of groups:
+ maintainer groups = several people listed as maintainer for one package
+ package groups = several packages that are maintained as if they were a
+ single package, so they always have the same list of
+ maintainers
+
+IMHO both features should be supported by the maintainer database:
+ - Restricted packages (if allowed) must have at least 2 maintainers.
+ This should make it less likely that change requests are simply
+ ignored.
+ - Maintainer groups can also be useful for unrestricted packages,
+ e.g. to divide the work on a large source package.
+ - Package groups are likely needed for some software systems like gnome
+ and X11 that are split into many smaller source packages.
+
+Here's a partial proposal for phase 1/unrestricted packages:
+
+- anyone can register as maintainer for a (source) package
+- maintainers can unregister at any time
+- the &quot;oldest&quot; maintainer (first one registered) is primary maintainer,
+ officially responsible for the package
+- package groups are defined by the project (is there any other way?)
+- the maintainer db redirects requests on a package in a group to the
+ package group (with an error msg?)
+
+
+ Christiaan
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+<PRE>On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+</I>&gt;<i> all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+</I>&gt;<i> available in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+</I>&gt;<i> only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+</I>&gt;<i> for me. :)
+</I>
+I uploaded &quot;iceape 2.0.12&quot; a few days ago, changing the name and
+icons/logo took me almost a month. Unfortunately there are still some bugs
+in this area: the release notes menu item for example currently still
+points to seamonkey. It should probably point to a mageia wiki page.
+
+Since I don't like the icon that is used for debian's iceape, I created a
+new icon based on the logo. It looks like it can still be improved,
+however, and the throbber is currently static. So it would be great if
+someone could re-do the icon (without creating a completely new design),
+and animate it for the throbber (he SVG files are in iceape-branding.tar
+in the source rpm and svn)...
+
+
+ Christiaan
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Changes%20for%20dkms%2C%20dracut%2C%20drakx%2C%20drivers%2C%20initscripts%2C%0A%09kms%2C%20mkinitrd%2C%20module-init-tools%2C%20udev&In-Reply-To=%3C4DA9DDBD.2010603%40iki.fi%3E"
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+<PRE>Hi all!
+
+I've now completed the implementation of the points from my earlier &quot;KMS
++ plymouth + DKMS + harddrake + speedboot + XFdrake + initrd stuff&quot; RFC
+at <A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-01/msg00107.php.">http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-01/msg00107.php.</A> The only
+notable difference is that instead of regenerating initrds a new
+&quot;nokmsboot&quot; boot option flag is used instead.
+
+I'll do some final cleanups and testing before I start committing this
+work; this message is mostly a heads-up in case someone spots something
+that's not ok.
+
+The changes per package follow, feel free to comment:
+
+DKMS:
+- use display_driver_helper for loading display modules - no functional
+ change, just needed due to the other changes
+
+Dracut:
+- fix find commandline to find gzip compressed KMS kernel modules
+
+Drakx-kbd-mouse-x11:
+- Added display_driver_helper script.
+- Add/Remove &quot;nokmsboot&quot; boot option depending on selected driver.
+ display_driver_helper is used to detect if that is the case.
+- Ask for reboot instead of X restart in the usual case, as this is
+ commonly required nowadays. Some checks could be added to allow
+ only to restart X when that is enough, but those are for later.
+
+Drakxtools (harddrake-service):
+- Adapt splash handling for plymouth (i.e. hide splash when querying
+ user).
+- Call drakx-kbd-mouse-x11 to add/remove nokmsboot boot option if
+ needed. Detection is done using display_driver_helper and by
+ checking for /dev/.late_kms which is created by display_driver_helper
+ when it is called from udev and the kms driver wasn't yet loaded by
+ initrd.
+- If a reboot is needed due to a driver switch (i.e. boot was done
+ without nokmsboot but it is needed for the current driver), ask for
+ it (user is given 30 sec to abort). display_driver_helper is used to
+ detect this.
+- On driver switch, load the new driver by calling udevadm.
+- If X.org is already running when a driver change is initiated,
+ defer change to next boot and disable speedboot for the next boot
+ (note: irrelevant with systemd).
+- Generalize the harddrake_confirm code a bit.
+
+Drakxtools (installer):
+- When configuring bootloader after X is already configured (like One),
+ use display_driver_helper to determine if &quot;nokmsboot&quot; should be used.
+
+Initscripts (rc.sysinit / speedboot, not relevant with systemd):
+- In very early boot, call display_driver_helper to check if there is a
+ pending dkms build (that may cause a wrong older binary dkms driver
+ to be loaded by X server) or a conflicting driver loaded by initrd
+ (which may cause graphical corruption / freeze when starting server)
+ and disable speedboot in those cases.
+- Load display drivers before X when in speedboot.
+- In speedboot mode, reopen file descriptors after X should've started.
+ This ensures that harddrake_service (and other sysinit output) is
+ shown to the user if the X startup failed. (plymouth grabs the output,
+ and when it shuts down the output is lost until descriptors are
+ reopened).
+
+Mkinitrd:
+- Allow putting nouveau/radeon in initrd (currently only i915 is
+ allowed)
+- Do not load display drivers if booted with nokmsboot.
+
+Module-init-tools:
+- Remove now unneeded patch affecting blacklist behaviour.
+- Remove now unwanted blacklist entries for DKMS and KMS drivers.
+
+Proprietary drivers:
+- Remove modprobe.preload.d, udev now loads the drivers selectively
+ using display_driver_helper. This also fixes a wrong version of a
+ driver being loaded when during early boot there is an old binary
+ dkms driver present and a newer source dkms driver is not yet built.
+
+Proprietary NVIDIA drivers:
+- Replace &quot;alias&quot; entry with &quot;install&quot; entry, to allow removal of a
+ patch in module-init-tools.
+
+Udev:
+- Use display_driver_helper to load display drivers. It checks the
+ drivers it knows so that the X.org configuration is appropriate for
+ the driver before loading it. I.e. if &quot;vesa&quot; is enabled, no display
+ drivers are loaded, and if &quot;fglrx&quot; is enabled &quot;radeon&quot; is not loaded,
+ and vice versa, etc. Also, no wrong version dkms binary driver is
+ loaded if the correct dkms source driver is going to be built later
+ during this boot.
+- When in initrd, instead of using display_driver_helper, instead check
+ for the nokmsboot boot parameter, and load drivers if that is not set
+ (note: initrds do not contain proprietary drivers).
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+I was working on new upstream fo deja-dup, but i require libnotify &gt;= 0.7
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+I just asked on #mageia-dev but nobody had an idea how to fix it.
+
+I'm trying to update libDrakx.pot in our Transifex, which doesn't
+work, since Tx is testing the pot files with &quot;msgfmt -c&quot;.
+
+&quot;msgfmt -c&quot; gives me the following errors:
+
+msgfmt: libDrakX.pot: warning: PO file header fuzzy
+ warning: older versions of msgfmt will give an
+error on this
+libDrakX.pot:7: invalid nplurals value
+libDrakX.pot:7: some header fields still have the initial default value
+msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors
+
+Thierry, I was told to CC you, so I hope, you can help me.
+
+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Old Process:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * monitor vendor-sec, discuss vulns, patches, negotiate release schedule,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also watch other distro updates, for things we may have missed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could ask to maintainers to help on that regard,
+</I>&gt;<i> or, like proposed for mageia-app-db and package testing, have a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> people
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated on gathering such informations. For example, someone say &quot;I take
+</I>&gt;<i> care of watching security for libreoffice and will warn secteam if
+</I>&gt;<i> something need to be done&quot;.
+</I>
+We can maybe also use the &quot;Open Source Vulnerability Database&quot; from
+<A HREF="http://osvdb.org/.">http://osvdb.org/.</A> This database can be downloaded, so maybe we can
+integrate it into youri-check.
+
+I think it will requires some work to match software name in OSVD and
+our package names. Some people created &quot;distromatch&quot;, a tool to match
+package names between distributions. Maybe OSVD could be added to
+distromatch.
+
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was working on new upstream fo deja-dup, but i require libnotify &gt;= 0.7
+</I>&gt;<i> and we have 0.5.2
+</I>&gt;<i> is it possible to update it to without trouble ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Discussing with others on IRC, libnotify-0.7 requires GTK3, so it's a
+no-go for Mageia 1.
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+Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Discussing with others on IRC, libnotify-0.7 requires GTK3, so it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> no-go for Mageia 1.
+</I>
+GTK3 is only used as build time require to compile a test application.
+It Is Not a runtime dependency.
+
+
+ Charles
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+<PRE>On 17.4.2011 00:28, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:58:28 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Discussing with others on IRC, libnotify-0.7 requires GTK3, so it's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no-go for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GTK3 is only used as build time require to compile a test application.
+</I>&gt;<i> It Is Not a runtime dependency.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But we dont provide gtk3 at all...
+
+So if we go for it, either disable the tests, or revert:
+<A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=cb6f92ce5b82ed7369863f06835d7cd40fb7d64c">http://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=cb6f92ce5b82ed7369863f06835d7cd40fb7d64c</A>
+
+Question is if libnotify upgrade is worth it, or if we get more trouble
+than it's worth...
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:41:00 +0300
+Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> So if we go for it, either disable the tests, or revert:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=cb6f92ce5b82ed7369863f06835d7cd40fb7d64c">http://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=cb6f92ce5b82ed7369863f06835d7cd40fb7d64c</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Question is if libnotify upgrade is worth it, or if we get more
+</I>&gt;<i> trouble than it's worth...
+</I>
+
+Can't recall which but there are more latest release apps, such as
+deja-dup, that are now requiring libnotify &gt;= 0.7.
+
+During the libnotify build the test cannot be enabled/disabled so it
+appears that reverting the commit is the way to go if you do decide to
+move to 0.7.2.
+
+
+ Charles
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 10:10:36 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 14<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-dev] Maintainers policy
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-dev] Changes for dkms, dracut, drakx, drivers, initscripts, kms, mkinitrd, module-init-tools, udev
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with pot files
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-dev] php and php-pear
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 10:10:36 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 14<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-dev] Changes for dkms, dracut, drakx, drivers, initscripts, kms, mkinitrd, module-init-tools, udev
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-dev] Maintainers policy
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-dev] php and php-pear
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with pot files
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 10:10:36 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 14<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01302941436- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302941436-01302950992- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302941436-01302950992-01302954163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302941436-01302984280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-dev] Meeting for secteam start
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302960655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-dev] Maintainers policy
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302962743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302977981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-dev] Changes for dkms, dracut, drakx, drivers, initscripts, kms, mkinitrd, module-init-tools, udev
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302983785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302983785-01302987508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302983785-01302987508-01302989326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302983785-01302987508-01302989326-01302990060- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302983785-01302987508-01302989326-01302990060-01302990663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-dev] libnotify 0.7.2
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302983857- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with pot files
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302985373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-dev] php and php-pear
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 16 23:51:03 CEST 2011</i><br>
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