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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 9 April 2011 21:59, David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:11:45 -0400, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The packages are definitely there e.g.:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm">ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I finally figured out what the problem was.
+</I>&gt;<i> I had to disable CD-ROM core media, as it has 1.7.2-2 on it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Right-o. I missed that possibility...
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+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Le samedi 9 avril 2011 15:41:00, Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have tried an upgrade of my old laptop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the hardware part, it is based on a pentium M @1.6GHz, 1GB RAM, an
+</I>&gt;<i> intel 855GM integrated graphics, RTL8139 ethernet and intel 2200 wifi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the software part, it was a mandriva 2010.2 (not up to date, about one
+</I>&gt;<i> month old), with KDE updated to 4.5.5 with unofficial packages from
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/">http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The upgrade was done using the i586 DVD, then updated to latest upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> with urpmi --auto-select, and orphans packages removes with urpme --auto-
+</I>&gt;<i> orphans.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was only one upgrade problem with amarok, I had amarok 2.4.0, also
+</I>&gt;<i> from MIB, but it failed to upgrade to the mageia packages due to a
+</I>&gt;<i> conflict, in the MIB packages libampache_account_login.so is provided in a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate package (libampache_account), but it is in the main amarok
+</I>&gt;<i> package in mageia. Urpmi tells me there is a conflict between
+</I>&gt;<i> amarok-3:2.4.0.90-2.mga1 and libampache_account-3:2.4.0-1mdv2010.2, and
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't propose to uninstall the later to resolve the conflict.
+</I>&gt;<i> urpme libampache_account (and amarok with it), then urpmi amarok solved the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem (as expected).
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if this issue should be handled on mageia's side, or if MIB
+</I>&gt;<i> should provide an updated package re-integrating
+</I>&gt;<i> libampache_account_login.so into the main amarok package to provide a
+</I>&gt;<i> clean upgrade.
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at current cooker, they also provide libampache_account_login.so in
+</I>&gt;<i> the main amarok package, so the problem might arise also when updgrading to
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv2011.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at mdv packages still installed after the upgrade, I see
+</I>&gt;<i> kbluetooth-0.4.2 is still there, which, I believe, is replaced by bluedevil
+</I>&gt;<i> in KDE 4.6. Bluedevil is installed without conflicts, thanks to the name
+</I>&gt;<i> change, but shouldn't it obsolete kbluetooth?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Package plasma-applet-yawp did not upgrade to mga's version, as it is
+</I>&gt;<i> version 0.3.6-1.1mdv2010.2 (also from MIB) and mageia's version is
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.3.6-1mga1, so urpmi think it is older. Not a big problem as the old
+</I>&gt;<i> package works fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another strange case with webkit, official mandriva updates provide some
+</I>&gt;<i> webkit 1.2.7 packages, while magiea has 1.2.5, so I end up with
+</I>&gt;<i> # rpm -qa|sort|grep webkit
+</I>&gt;<i> libggadget-webkitjs0-0.11.2-5.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> libkdewebkit5-4.6.2-0.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> libqtwebkit4-4.7.2-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> libwebkitgtk1.0_2-1.2.7-0.1mdv2010.2
+</I>&gt;<i> python-qt4-webkit-4.8.3-2.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> webkit1.0-1.2.7-0.1mdv2010.2
+</I>&gt;<i> webkit1.0-webinspector-1.2.7-0.1mdv2010.2
+</I>&gt;<i> webkit-1.2.7-0.1mdv2010.2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the hardware support part, wifi is working fine (with non-free ipw2200
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware).
+</I>&gt;<i> Firewire is also enabled, but I have nothing to connect to it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Suspend to RAM works fine also.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The intel graphics works (i810), but compositing is unusable, if I enable
+</I>&gt;<i> kwin's desktop effects I get huge rendering problem with windows not
+</I>&gt;<i> updating, still showing at their old position when moved, and so on. I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess this is more a driver related problem and can't be fixed by mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> but if confirmed by someone else with the same hardware I guess it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be listed in the release notes. With desktop effects disabled it is fully
+</I>&gt;<i> usable. In mdv 2010.2, compositing was almost usable, but already with
+</I>&gt;<i> some rendering glithes in plasma.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also had a strange problem when connecting one particular USB memory key
+</I>&gt;<i> (sandisk cruzer 8BG), udisks-daemon and dbus-daemon started taking lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU (with many context switch wetween each other), disconnecting the key
+</I>&gt;<i> actually made things worse and I had to disconnect from the desktop to have
+</I>&gt;<i> it stop.
+</I>&gt;<i> The strange thing is that two devices shows when that key is connected, the
+</I>&gt;<i> expected 8GB mass storage, and an optical disk with label &quot;U3 System&quot; which
+</I>&gt;<i> can't be mounted. I don't know what it is, but there is an &quot;U3 smart&quot; logo
+</I>&gt;<i> on the key.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have the problem on another computer with KDE 4.5.5 and udisks
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> that's all for now
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+If not done already, you should file a bug for each problem that can be solved
+on mageia's side (webkit older than mandriva's one, bluedevil...)
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 9 avril 2011 15:41:00, Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If not done already, you should file a bug for each problem that can be solved
+</I>&gt;<i> on mageia's side (webkit older than mandriva's one, bluedevil...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The webkit and plasma-applet-yawp issues are now fixed .
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+<PRE>On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Renaud MICHEL
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have tried an upgrade of my old laptop.
+</I>
+The webkit, amarok, bluedevil and plasma-applet-yawp issues are now fixed .
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 9 April 2011 21:59, David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:11:45 -0400, Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The packages are definitely there e.g.:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm">ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I finally figured out what the problem was.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had to disable CD-ROM core media, as it has 1.7.2-2 on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Right-o. I missed that possibility...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Is there a possibility to have this done automagically?
+
+I was thinking on having gnome or gtk specifically request gvfs older than
+1.7 ?
+
+what would happen if such a requirement was put into place? would it be
+downgraded? or would gnome be wanting to be removed?
+
+is it a possibility to having this 1.6 version obsolete the specific
+1.7.2-2 ? as a temporary measure?
+
+or is this something that will not be present for users who didn't test
+any alpha, beta, or whatever?
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+is mdv 2010.1 using 1.7 ?
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; schrieb am 08.04.2011
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:50 PM, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> attacks.org&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Fri, 08 Apr 2011, Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; So I'd like to ask you, what you think, we should do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; - package mariadb as an alternative for mysql
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; - package mariadb nd drop mysql or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; - stay with mysql and not package mariadb at all at least for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; the time being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I would start with mariadb as an alternative. Then drop mysql
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; later, if/when it's confirmed that mysql is really dead and we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; could check that mariadb is a good replacement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and then why mariasql and not skysql ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I understood correctly, SkySQL is not a software but a company
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that provide support for MySQL and MariaDB.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, skysql is a company providing service for mariadb (and mysql).
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the younbg lady I met at the Fossgis, Monty is also
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow connected to skysql but he wanted to make sure, the
+</I>&gt;<i> development of maridb is independent from the company selling services
+</I>&gt;<i> for it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To the drizzle project that was mentioned in this thread, I can say
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing. I heard of it for the first time now.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I would prefer mariadb were Monty (as the original mysql founder)
+</I>&gt;<i> is involved...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I as well
+
+afaics mariadb is to mysql as libreoffice to openoffice.
+
+does anyone know how the status for ndb is being dropped from mysql?
+(afaik except the paying versions)
+
+is there some kind of ndb functionality for mariadb?
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+&gt;<i> I also had a strange problem when connecting one particular USB memory key
+</I>&gt;<i> (sandisk cruzer 8BG), udisks-daemon and dbus-daemon started taking lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU (with many context switch wetween each other), disconnecting the key
+</I>&gt;<i> actually made things worse and I had to disconnect from the desktop to
+</I>&gt;<i> have
+</I>&gt;<i> it stop.
+</I>&gt;<i> The strange thing is that two devices shows when that key is connected,
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> expected 8GB mass storage, and an optical disk with label &quot;U3 System&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> which
+</I>&gt;<i> can't be mounted. I don't know what it is, but there is an &quot;U3 smart&quot; logo
+</I>&gt;<i> on the key.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have the problem on another computer with KDE 4.5.5 and udisks
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> that's all for now
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Renaud Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I've seen this before (not U3, but something else), it looks like some
+kind of an usb disk with extra ro mounted CD thingie that can contain
+drivers for the usb key part.
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+<PRE>On 10 April 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> On 9 April 2011 21:59, David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:11:45 -0400, Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The packages are definitely there e.g.:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm">ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/gvfs-1.6.7-1.mga1.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I finally figured out what the problem was.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I had to disable CD-ROM core media, as it has 1.7.2-2 on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Right-o. I missed that possibility...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a possibility to have this done automagically?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking on having gnome or gtk specifically request gvfs older than
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.7 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what would happen if such a requirement was put into place? would it be
+</I>&gt;<i> downgraded? or would gnome be wanting to be removed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it a possibility to having this 1.6 version obsolete the specific
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.7.2-2 ? as a temporary measure?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or is this something that will not be present for users who didn't test
+</I>&gt;<i> any alpha, beta, or whatever?
+</I>
+Since the issue only existed in Cauldron for a couple of weeks,
+nothing should be done in gvfs spec to obsolete 1.7.2 packages;
+Cauldron users are expected to be 1) subscribed to the -dev ML and 2)
+know how to workaround such issues.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is mdv 2010.1 using 1.7 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Obviously not. (You could have used Sophie to check that?)
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 05:02:25 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 22:27:45 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql vs mariadb
+</A><A NAME="3943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a mentor
+</A><A NAME="3941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Apr 10 22:27:45 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 05:02:25 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 22:27:45 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a mentor
+</A><A NAME="3941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql vs mariadb
+</A><A NAME="3943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Apr 10 22:27:45 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 05:02:25 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 22:27:45 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a mentor
+</A><A NAME="3941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql vs mariadb
+</A><A NAME="3943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Apr 10 05:02:25 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01302404545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302404545-01302464219- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302404545-01302464219-01302467265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-dev] gvfs
+</A><A NAME="3945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302423390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302423390-01302425330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302425774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302428894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a mentor
+</A><A NAME="3941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302464611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql vs mariadb
+</A><A NAME="3943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302465089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade from mdv2010.2 to mga beta1
+</A><A NAME="3944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
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